Saw someone else mention sailfish! There is also PostmarketOS I've recently seen footage of it running on a OnePlus phone and it looks way more stable than I'd expected!!

Edit= apparently just 2 oneplus phones and sparse other phones are supported, and stability varies per device =/ you can check here to see if your phone's supported!

Well, the market is really very small. There's also the PinePhone Pro (which is discontinued) and Librem 5, Volla Phone, Mudita Kompakt. But, of couse, that whasn't Ipone 16 pro max.

Though graphene is shopping for phone OEMs rn, hopefully there'll be a graphenephone soonish.

You're not disproving my point that there is no feasible way for me as a consumer to have a functional device without begrudgingly supporting either apple or android in their walled garden bullshit. No amount of "voting with my wallet" will fix this without a proper alternative

Thank you, i appreciate the information. I will keep my eye on its development.

you don't have TrackPhone being sold at Walmart where you are?

So how come android is Linux but Linux don't run android apps? How hard it is to have a simulator like harmony os for unsupported apps?

Android apps are specifically using google ecosystems and would break without such things. It would also mean taking a developers app and putting it in a new market, this requires permissions and they might be under contract.

Linux can run android apps, but having a fully commercial device would need lots of new natives.

there are android emulators / compatibility apps like WayDroid that you can run on linux to simulate an android experience but they're not perfect -- and any App that processes payments (banking, utility, parking) outright rejects being in a container and has many tests for detecting so

Pfft... We're the ones who are just going to find the exploit in the new walled garden anyway. #GreenJailbreak

It kinda depends on what you define as "functional" though. Because depending on that it is definitely feasible to vote with your wallet.

In my case for example, I use a fairphone with lineageos and microg. This means I have to live with some minor inconveniences around banking and such. But, for me, this is a functional device and I can do everything I want to do with it.

off topic me using android 2015

I remember when I was younger is rooted phone and installed freedom apk. This app was awesome and allowed you to buy stuff from Google Play for free. Does anyone remember this app? I always thought that logo was really weird.

You did get the fairphone model right? The one brand that’s repairable?

Then you're basically making a ROM and there are many small detections for this. Many apps rely on proprietary closed source code like google play services

You will be able to do some things, but it will be a massive pain. Android is big, really big. Emulating will just mean you're running Android all over again (and it's often detected). Making a fork is a lot of work

given drivers are not an issue

All the Linux phones run on outdated hardware because that's the main problem.

Well, time for zoomers to experience our childhood (with phones that could call, send SMS, and play Snake).

Jolla looks awesome, have to look into that.

Never forget the possibility of very powerful NFC tags which could automate your day!

That's a nightmare