Yes, Titanium Backup was great, but have you also tried Helium? Also where's Odin3?

I recognise almost all of picture one, but it's been a while since I used them, I should upgrade again. Is it really that much pain now?

Follow pine64 news, they stopped producing new pinephones since they arent in demand enough

I remember this "don't be evil" slogan. But what was it from?

@[email protected], @[email protected], @[email protected], @[email protected]

(only because you all expressed desire for a proper Linux phone and I've still, yet, to've seen anyone mention this in this thread; may not fit your needs but in case no one knew of it, yet)

It was Google's.

The phone running FuriOS seems neat.

Are they stopping development though? Stopping production when there is an abundance of stock to sell already is just normal business.

I thought that was just the pro?

What is halium and why is it a drawback ?

https://halium.org/ (not me insinuating you should've just searched for it; I just like to be thorough and give all possible information, even if unneeded)

The very simplified explanation (as far as I understand things) is that it uses an Android kernel to run Linux on so that hardware issues are minimized (the biggest difficulty that Purism and the Pinephones have had and why they've been harangued in terms of what they can do is they're trying to provide open hardware that can work with the pure Linux kernel).

So the plus side is that things work with Android hardware – because you're, ultimately, using the Android kernel – and you can (theoretically) open up the number of devices you can run on exceedingly.

Downside is (I believe) you get Google/Android closed bits running and you're tied to the development of whomever made that modified kernel. All the complaints about not getting kernel upgrades after a while (because you're using a modified kernel, you can't just pull the latest and greatest from upstream and use it) that people have with Android will still apply.

Given the moves Google's making, it's not a deal breaker, for me, but I know it can be for some people so just wanted to give people the heads up.

Not sure, but I'd bet it's less than flipphones / dumbphones. For the average person, smartphone and android/apple are probably synonymous.

iOS jailbreaking used to be incredible too.

I guess it might still be for those who slipped into the “window” to do it, but I have no clue what Cydia looks like these days.

Cydia is practically dead, replaced by Sileo or Zebra, and most tweaks are paid now.

I miss when people did stuff for a hobby or for fun. Literally everything wants your money these days it seems.

Also TrackerControl FOSS app that filters ads on your phone directly. Can enable/disable different stuff per-app. Must have no proxy/dns to work.

Oh that sucks. It’s par for iOS though.

Yeah, me too. So what if apps were simpler than they are now… that would be nice.

Pinephone battery usage (with postmarketOS) is atrocious. I bought one and it's been collecting dust in a drawer ever since the first 3-4 times the battery drained from 100 to 0 within 24 hours on stand-by.
My fastest wasted 700ish EUR ever.

Hmm I didn't use early (or later) iphones, so idk. In that era I had a Nokia N63 (sort of a Blackberry knockoff) which was really nice. I had an N900 but rarely used it. Later I got an N9 and used it mostly because my N63 crapped out. But the N9 was also near unusable. I finally broke down and got an Android phone in 2017 or so (Moto G4, cheap and obsolete even then) and it was lightning fast by comparison.

Monoco would too! Owowowow

It's not like everything (or rather every dev) necessarily wants your money. We're forced to monetize even our hobbies in an attempt to live a worthwhile life. It's a cancerous system infecting everything and everyone.

To develop great FOSS software without the need of monetization is an enormous privilege.

Wasn't Ubuntu phone a thing?