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  • B [email protected]

    But 0!=1, what am I missing here?

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    I don't see how the vacuously true statement 0 != 1 has any relevance here.

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      I don't see how the vacuously true statement 0 != 1 has any relevance here.

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      First, "make it 0!" - * Number *! As a "surprise factorial" (as seen in comments in this very thread making this exact joke) is a common joke in threads like this and that was the only connection I could make for this meme, having no previously knowledge of binary quirks.

      Second, I don't know if you were trying to be a dick or you're just some overly wordy ass clown high on your own farts, but how on earth is me explaining what I thought a joke meant, showing why it didn't work, and then asking for help to understand it vacuous?

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        First, "make it 0!" - * Number *! As a "surprise factorial" (as seen in comments in this very thread making this exact joke) is a common joke in threads like this and that was the only connection I could make for this meme, having no previously knowledge of binary quirks.

        Second, I don't know if you were trying to be a dick or you're just some overly wordy ass clown high on your own farts, but how on earth is me explaining what I thought a joke meant, showing why it didn't work, and then asking for help to understand it vacuous?

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        I assumed that you understood that the original joke was about having 0 wishes.

        I also assumed that you were making a joke about factorials.

        I decided to make my own joke about "!=" in your joke being misinterpreted as the programming symbol for "not equal".

        My statement should be read as "0 is not equal to 1". This is a vacuously true statement, as it does not rely rely on any input, and is always true.

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          Shouldn't it be -1, not 0?

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            Shouldn't it be -1, not 0?

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            Depends. If the wish counter decrements after fulfilling the wish, then it works.

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              • Wish 1: Wish for the numeric rule to operate in 64-bit unsigned integer space.

              • Wish 2: wish for 0 wishes.

              • Wish 3: Wish for minus 1 Wish.

              Result: now be left with 1.8446744073709551616*10^19 Wishes.

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                I assumed that you understood that the original joke was about having 0 wishes.

                I also assumed that you were making a joke about factorials.

                I decided to make my own joke about "!=" in your joke being misinterpreted as the programming symbol for "not equal".

                My statement should be read as "0 is not equal to 1". This is a vacuously true statement, as it does not rely rely on any input, and is always true.

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                Avarage argument in any science related space:

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                  He is saying factorial of zero, so more a math nerd than a computer nerd.

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                  This is why math nerds prefer to talk in a dull tone. The least bit of excitement, and your equation is suddenly wrong.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    The Disney genie was also just a scam. Aladdin explicitly wished to be a prince. Not look like a prince or be as rich as a prince or have a parade like a prince. But actually be one.

                    Instead he's revealed to be a 'fake prince' because the genie half assed his wish.

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                    "Eh, good enough, ticket closed"

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                    • B [email protected]

                      But 0!=1, what am I missing here?

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                      Not only is 0 != 1, but also 0! = 1.

                      sadly I don't know which one you mean 😄

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                        The Disney genie was also just a scam. Aladdin explicitly wished to be a prince. Not look like a prince or be as rich as a prince or have a parade like a prince. But actually be one.

                        Instead he's revealed to be a 'fake prince' because the genie half assed his wish.

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                        I always thought he was a "fake prince" because he was the prince of a country that didn't exist. Like, sure, you're the prince of this nonexistent country, see how far that gets you I guess. Otherwise Genie would either have to make new land out of nowhere somehow, or displace people who already lived/ruled in a location, which seems somewhat against the rules.

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                          Plot twist: The dialogue for "You have X wishes!" was not written beyond 3, so he now overflows into unused memory and just screams incoherent garbage at you.

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                            It was me who wished everyone after me to be limited to three wishes

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                            I'd kick your ass if I didn't spend all three of my wishes on churros from 7-11. 😕

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                              I always thought he was a "fake prince" because he was the prince of a country that didn't exist. Like, sure, you're the prince of this nonexistent country, see how far that gets you I guess. Otherwise Genie would either have to make new land out of nowhere somehow, or displace people who already lived/ruled in a location, which seems somewhat against the rules.

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                              If it was impossible he shouldn't have accepted the wish. Aladdin already gets a wish rejected for not being possible. Fulfilling a wish with something different than what was wished for shouldn't be a thing.

                              And what does being a prince of a non-existent country even mean? That's still not a prince in any capacity (as confirmed by the story). It's just a scam.

                              Plus an easy way to accomplish this is just to make Aladdin the lost son of someone. It's a pretty common trope for royal kids to end up missing and raised as commoners, especially in Disney stories.

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                                • Wish 1: "I wish that my third wish will retroactively become my first wish instead, but I retain all memories from every timeline."

                                • Wish 2: "I wish that every wish I've made after my first wish never happened, except for my memories of them."

                                • Wish 2b: Genie... i've come to bargain..." user proceeds to enforce temporal paradox type 1a 'causal-loop' until 'negotiation leveraging favorable terms' for infinite wishes without the monkeys paw BS is complete

                                • Wish 3: "I wish to break this cycle and return to normal linear time, keeping all accumulated memories."

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                                  Ah, turns out that all genies use the same code as nuclear gandhi.

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                                    If it was impossible he shouldn't have accepted the wish. Aladdin already gets a wish rejected for not being possible. Fulfilling a wish with something different than what was wished for shouldn't be a thing.

                                    And what does being a prince of a non-existent country even mean? That's still not a prince in any capacity (as confirmed by the story). It's just a scam.

                                    Plus an easy way to accomplish this is just to make Aladdin the lost son of someone. It's a pretty common trope for royal kids to end up missing and raised as commoners, especially in Disney stories.

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                                    That's a fair point. I was thinking it was kinda like being the technical prince of the Ottoman empire or some other country that no longer exists - a neat factoid to talk about, but otherwise not really relevant.

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                                      • Wish 1: "I wish that my third wish will retroactively become my first wish instead, but I retain all memories from every timeline."

                                      • Wish 2: "I wish that every wish I've made after my first wish never happened, except for my memories of them."

                                      • Wish 2b: Genie... i've come to bargain..." user proceeds to enforce temporal paradox type 1a 'causal-loop' until 'negotiation leveraging favorable terms' for infinite wishes without the monkeys paw BS is complete

                                      • Wish 3: "I wish to break this cycle and return to normal linear time, keeping all accumulated memories."

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                                      Wish1: I whish to live through various alternate realities of my choosing until I want to stop; I want to retain only the memories of it.

                                      FTFY.

                                      Now you've got two more wishes free for other stuff.

                                      You're welcome.

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                                        That's a fair point. I was thinking it was kinda like being the technical prince of the Ottoman empire or some other country that no longer exists - a neat factoid to talk about, but otherwise not really relevant.

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                                        Oh good point. For a non-benevolent genie story, I suppose being made a prince of a defunct country would work. He would be a prince, but it wouldn't be good enough for what he wants to be a prince for (a good match for the princess). Yeah I see your angle now and that makes sense.

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