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Last time I went to my cellphone carrier offices to upgrade my hardware, they were already pushing the iPhone 15 or 16, but I went in there and asked for the iPhone 10, managed to get the very last one they had in stock. It cost a fraction of what the latest ones did, does everything I need it to do, and a couple of years later it's still purring like a kitten.
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We are making fun of the choice to buy an overpriced and super restricted phone, like literally I couldn't install ytliteplus on an European iphone in Europe, why because apple needs to give an id to apps for it to install without a PC or Mac server which needs to be connected every 7 days, I think.
You might be making fun of that, OP is just vomiting up weak, tired memes. As another user already put it, neither iPhone nor Android is that great anymore.
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Last time I went to my cellphone carrier offices to upgrade my hardware, they were already pushing the iPhone 15 or 16, but I went in there and asked for the iPhone 10, managed to get the very last one they had in stock. It cost a fraction of what the latest ones did, does everything I need it to do, and a couple of years later it's still purring like a kitten.
it’s still purring like a kitten.
…should a phone be doing that?
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My Oneplus 5t running LineageOS still works really well, snappy even.
It's a year older then the XR
Yes, but how's the official ROM support?
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This logic is outdated. The top of the line iPhones are no more (and sometimes a bit less) than comparable Android flagships.
Their base models come in around high-midrange Android, true. But some of the specs (CPU/camera) still beat out Android phones at their price range. Heck on CPU they often beat more expensive Android phones.
I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of Apple it's just like, it's not just them. I've had something like 9 Android phones and 6 iPhones. Really in the end they aren't that different day-to-day.
My older mid tier iphone was more expensive than my wife's pixel 9 pro bought around the same time. Her phone is better in almost every way, for sure every way that matters. I am counting the days until I can switch back to a device that doesn't suck.
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Yes, but how's the official ROM support?
Does it matter? They made it easy to ROM and now my device gets to live on by the support of the community. That's how tech should be. We can't expect endless support from companies (it's just not realistic) but if they don't actively hinder you from owning your own device and making it somewhat modifiable, it adds a lot of life.
In the context of the iPhone XR mentioned by the post I replied to, that "official ROM" is nearly non-functional, is that really better in your opinion?
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Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.
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Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.
That's every iPhone user....
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Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.
However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t. While the most expensive Samsung S25 is more expensive than the equivalent iPhone, Samsung also sells models under 100€. That does skew the perception towards Samsung being more affordable.
Which it is, of course, if you don’t care about the extra amenities of more expensive phones.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.
However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t.
So, there are no Apple counterparts for what "other manufacturers" make.
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Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.
However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t.
So, there are no Apple counterparts for what "other manufacturers" make.
Well, depends on the price point but below 500-600€, yea, Apple has nothing to offer. At or above that price point, there obviously are counterparts to Apple devices and vice versa.
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The Iphone is a luxury commodity and like all luxury commodities it marketed for people with little sense and lots of money who are easily separated from the ladder with shiny trinkets. Before the Iphone there was the Rolex and the super-secret clothing designer brands only 1%er yuppies think they know about. Before that people ground up egyptian mummies for medicine/taste and bought expensive jar of nutmeg spice from halfway across the world imported via boat. These kind of people were always going to spend 2000$ on trinkets whether its a 2000$ pocket computer or a 800$ wrist watch is a difference in taste. The real question is why humanity can't shed this consumerist prone archetype what is it about people constantly wanting new shiny things that they don't need and for which the money can go to a better place? Why do modern consumerist not have the ability to tell corporations to fuck off? Why is it that after a quarter century of time to get used to the concept of a computer and an email people tantrum and shriek when their tappy button gets moved 2 inches to the left without knowing how to fix it? Why do we consider this an acceptable baseline for human intelligence and emotional volatility?
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That's every iPhone user....
Yep!
- post made from my five year old iPhone 11 Pro
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Funny, I have an XS from the same year and it’s totally fine on iOS 18. I might even replace the battery.
Funny you said that because one has 4GB ram and another has 3GB ram. Plus, my wife has a 64GB model and its almost full. Performance really took a nose dive. You must have a really low bar regarding performance.
Take a look at the video. Opening app takes awhile compared to XS and multitasking is shit. Opened up a camera and go back to another app, guess what? Refreshed.
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Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.
Wouldn't that effectively end the used phone market, forcing everyone to pay for new?
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Not in a literal sense but apple do tend to cripple old iPhone with their newest software update. I should know i owned an iPhone 12 mini on ios 17. That little bugger stutter everytime i pull down the control centre, scrolling through safari, scrolling through app, delay when pressing keyboard and yes, the battery is above 90% iirc.
My wife's iphone xr is even worse, granted it has been 7 years but god damn, that thing make my blood boil. Its still on ios 17, i cant imagine how slow it's gonna be on ios 18. Battery is at 82% though but i dont think replacing battery is worth it at the moment. Just waiting for the right moment to upgrade.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Experiencing none of that on iPhone 11 Pro.
I think if anything, the 12 mini just had subpar tech due to size constraints. Sadly.
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Does it matter? They made it easy to ROM and now my device gets to live on by the support of the community. That's how tech should be. We can't expect endless support from companies (it's just not realistic) but if they don't actively hinder you from owning your own device and making it somewhat modifiable, it adds a lot of life.
In the context of the iPhone XR mentioned by the post I replied to, that "official ROM" is nearly non-functional, is that really better in your opinion?
Yes. This is what im talking about. If only i can flash a lightweight os on my wife iphone and extend its life i would. Ultimately, it stuck on ios 18 with piss poor performance. Its a bad experience. Why should i contribute to another ewaste if i can help it.
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2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I bought that one refurbed for one of my kids. I was definitely impressed. Small, fast, actual iOS version. Where is this magic phone from? Its not like the others.
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Experiencing none of that on iPhone 11 Pro.
I think if anything, the 12 mini just had subpar tech due to size constraints. Sadly.
I think ios 17 is just buggy on iphone 12 mini because i compared it side by side with my wife iPhone XR and hers is just fine when pulling the control centre.
Also, i think the sole problem is apple is throttling the 12 mini when it gets too warm. Its a fine phone but the battery is really bad. I have long upgraded to another phone but its just bad experience on my part. Thats all.
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That's every iPhone user....
Not really. I know a few iPhone users who have kept their phones for a long time. The most impressive case was a guy who had had the same phone for 11 years and only had to buy a new one because an update fried the old one.
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Wouldn't that effectively end the used phone market, forcing everyone to pay for new?
If phones were built to last and something you would only buy once every 10ish years, I think we would all be better for it. I also think buying a phone from new would mean something different than it does in today's consumer culture. It would be way cheaper longterm for everybody as well.
The used phone market only exists because of the current buy and throw away culture we live in.
