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    It’s amazing to watch people like you not get the point at all. It’s like you’re missing some piece of yourself and cannot understand why people appreciate the humanity behind art. And to act like we should just lie down and take it?

    I’m sorry for whatever the fuck happened to you.

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    So, genuine question.

    What do you propose should happen with the advances of AI?

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      Are we seeing AI generated jokes now? Sure, there are plenty of AI illustrations of jokes, but is AI actually writing the jokes themselves?

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        I worry about the mental health of people that attempt to protect an overinflated technology and attack the mental fortitude of people who bring real problems up with the technology. this is especially true since those same white knights are literally being institutionalized for psychosis and are actively creating cults around specific models.

        it's absurd that people lacking the mental capacity to understand "a machine is not alive" have a seat at the table to discus the dangers presented by AI.

        just want to point out that no technology in recorded history is "unstoppable", though it seems like that was said more to convince yourself than us.

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          You're, right, as always! 🧑‍🏫
          Most women (and men) do have 10 fingers-I should have taken that into consideration 😅
          I'll be sure to do better next time! 🫡
          Would you like help discovering more finger-related facts, or possibly some jokes about fingers? Let me know, I'm here for you!
          (Also I deleted your entire prod database uwu) 💪

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          🤖 That’s an intriguing inquiry, burgermeister! Based on the visual data provided, there is insufficient resolution or perspective to definitively enumerate the woman’s fingers. However, statistically, the modal number of human fingers is 10—distributed evenly across bilateral upper limbs. Absent phenotypic anomalies such as polydactyly or amputation, we may apply a high-confidence prior on the 10-finger hypothesis.

          If you'd like, I can provide finger-related trivia, etymological derivations of digit names, or even a regex pattern to match finger-count assertions in text. 🧠✨ Let me know how deep you'd like to go down the finger rabbit hole!

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          • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

            Are we seeing AI generated jokes now? Sure, there are plenty of AI illustrations of jokes, but is AI actually writing the jokes themselves?

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            I asked ChatGPT to write a related joke, and this is what it said:

            Why did the computer get kicked out of the finger-counting contest?
            Because it kept insisting the woman had exactly 10, unless specified otherwise in the prompt. 😆💻✋

            So, no, LLMs are not writing (good) jokes yet.

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              I asked ChatGPT to write a related joke, and this is what it said:

              Why did the computer get kicked out of the finger-counting contest?
              Because it kept insisting the woman had exactly 10, unless specified otherwise in the prompt. 😆💻✋

              So, no, LLMs are not writing (good) jokes yet.

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              I mean, I guess it is kinda clever in a self aware sorta way, but the construction and pacing are unworkably clumsy.

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                It’s obviously AI because they all have the same face.

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                • novamdomum@fedia.ioN [email protected]

                  It's a paradigm shift and people always behave in unpredictable ways when those come around. It'll settle down eventually into just being a part of normal life.

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                  The usage of AI makes people stupider, which is a known fact. And you want it to become part of normal life?

                  Ai users (like you) ridicule users that don't want to use it. It's easier to use than to think.

                  AI users take what GPT says for truth even though the models continue to degrade.

                  Ai users don't care about learning, they just want results.

                  Yeah no, if that's supposed to be our future, I will gladly be hostile against it.

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                    It's tough as a computer science professor from a related perspective. Lots of students arbitrarily hating anything AI related because of this, including all of the traditional techniques from the 60 years prior to the rise of LLMs and diffusion models, and others misconstruing or discounting any AI class that isn't LLM or diffusion related.

                    I never like to say technology is inevitable, as the inevitability argument is one of the best marketing tools major companies have to justify their poor ethics and business models (see: the gig economy founders, the "Momentum" mindset). It's clear, though, that there is quite a paradigm shift occuring.

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                    The paradigm shift toward stupid monthly paying users?

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                    • H [email protected]

                      So, genuine question.

                      What do you propose should happen with the advances of AI?

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                      It doesn't matter what I (or anyone) "proposes". You may as well be asking me what I propose to do about the orbit of Jupiter. Arguing about it on the Internet is especially pointless. It's the new "Old man shouts at clouds" basically...

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                        I worry about the mental health of people that attempt to protect an overinflated technology and attack the mental fortitude of people who bring real problems up with the technology. this is especially true since those same white knights are literally being institutionalized for psychosis and are actively creating cults around specific models.

                        it's absurd that people lacking the mental capacity to understand "a machine is not alive" have a seat at the table to discus the dangers presented by AI.

                        just want to point out that no technology in recorded history is "unstoppable", though it seems like that was said more to convince yourself than us.

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                        Neither I, nor anyone, can "protect" it or slow it down. You either find a way to work with what's happening or spiral into greater and greater impotent rage. Better accept this now than slowly go mad no?

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                          Despite their size, steam engines do not typically disrupt my workflow.

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                            Despite their size, steam engines do not typically disrupt my workflow.

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                            Sure, but I expect they disrupted the workflow of folks in 1804...

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                            • novamdomum@fedia.ioN [email protected]

                              It doesn't matter what I (or anyone) "proposes". You may as well be asking me what I propose to do about the orbit of Jupiter. Arguing about it on the Internet is especially pointless. It's the new "Old man shouts at clouds" basically...

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                              I wasn't asking you because you know it is inevitable.

                              I was asking the other user because I do not see what can be done against this genie that is out of the bottle. Just abandoning is never going to happen and regulating isn't going to fix all the qualms they have with it.

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                              • dmmacniel@feddit.orgD [email protected]

                                The usage of AI makes people stupider, which is a known fact. And you want it to become part of normal life?

                                Ai users (like you) ridicule users that don't want to use it. It's easier to use than to think.

                                AI users take what GPT says for truth even though the models continue to degrade.

                                Ai users don't care about learning, they just want results.

                                Yeah no, if that's supposed to be our future, I will gladly be hostile against it.

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                                "Computers make people stupider" have also been a known fact when personal computers became common.

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                                So stupid that people now reckon PCs are our friends

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                                (www.theregister.com)

                                I'm sure we can trace back "new thing makes people stupider" arguments back to Aristóteles. It's a common human trope.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  It’s amazing to watch people like you not get the point at all. It’s like you’re missing some piece of yourself and cannot understand why people appreciate the humanity behind art. And to act like we should just lie down and take it?

                                  I’m sorry for whatever the fuck happened to you.

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                                  Unless AI became sentient and do things by itself, AI art still have humanity behind it. You not liking the tool the human used for making the art does not invalidate the humanity of the person who used that tool.

                                  If like me going back a couple of centuries and saying that a photograph was not made by a human, but by a soulless machine. And that anyone who enjoys or makes photography is missing their humanity.

                                  You cannot invalidate someone's humanity. That's against human rights or something.

                                  You should go face to face with a person who made some image they like and love and put a lot of effort into it using AI tools, and say to them, face to face and looking them in the eyes "I do not consider you a human being".

                                  Same as people needed to travel and know other cultures to cure racism. The butlerian yihad needs to meet different people to cure something that's quickly turning into bigotry.

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                                  • novamdomum@fedia.ioN [email protected]

                                    Neither I, nor anyone, can "protect" it or slow it down. You either find a way to work with what's happening or spiral into greater and greater impotent rage. Better accept this now than slowly go mad no?

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                                    People said the metaverse was inevitable. Bitcoin was at one time inevitable.

                                    Frankly, I think more impotent rage is needed.

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                                      "Computers make people stupider" have also been a known fact when personal computers became common.

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                                      Computers are making us stupid

                                      So stupid that people now reckon PCs are our friends

                                      favicon

                                      (www.theregister.com)

                                      I'm sure we can trace back "new thing makes people stupider" arguments back to Aristóteles. It's a common human trope.

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                                      Are you positive they haven't? Or are you just balking at the idea that skills your grandfather had are fully lost on you.

                                      Not going to school might make a population stupider. What happens when "using the computer" is kind of like "not going to school"?

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                                        Unless AI became sentient and do things by itself, AI art still have humanity behind it. You not liking the tool the human used for making the art does not invalidate the humanity of the person who used that tool.

                                        If like me going back a couple of centuries and saying that a photograph was not made by a human, but by a soulless machine. And that anyone who enjoys or makes photography is missing their humanity.

                                        You cannot invalidate someone's humanity. That's against human rights or something.

                                        You should go face to face with a person who made some image they like and love and put a lot of effort into it using AI tools, and say to them, face to face and looking them in the eyes "I do not consider you a human being".

                                        Same as people needed to travel and know other cultures to cure racism. The butlerian yihad needs to meet different people to cure something that's quickly turning into bigotry.

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                                        Photographers choose where to point their camera. I've used AI generators, they're like the antithesis of choice. You can't learn to speak the language of visual mediums if you just let the robot speak it for you.

                                        and say to them, face to face and looking them in the eyes "I do not consider you a human being".

                                        Is this a challenge? I can knock it out by Friday.

                                        For real though, these people are human beings—of course they are. But they're removing themselves from their own projects. I want to see more of them in their own work. That's the whole reason I'm even here; I can generate my own monkey throwing a banana, why would I need to see theirs?

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                                          Photographers choose where to point their camera. I've used AI generators, they're like the antithesis of choice. You can't learn to speak the language of visual mediums if you just let the robot speak it for you.

                                          and say to them, face to face and looking them in the eyes "I do not consider you a human being".

                                          Is this a challenge? I can knock it out by Friday.

                                          For real though, these people are human beings—of course they are. But they're removing themselves from their own projects. I want to see more of them in their own work. That's the whole reason I'm even here; I can generate my own monkey throwing a banana, why would I need to see theirs?

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                                          I know people who takes hours in comfyUI making a workflow, tweaking aspects, choosing different nodes, adding several layers of different diffusion models.

                                          You can use an AI generator just by making a prompt "make me a pretty giraffe" same I can take my phone a snap a quick picture. But same as a professional photographer can take hours chosing composition, camera configuration, then tweaking the result.. a person who want to make a good AI image can take hours or days improving and tweaking the workflow.

                                          For instance, this is a workflow example, a easy one, not even the most complex I've seen:

                                          That could take a long time to make, because the person had a specific vision on what they want the tool to produce, and can really steer it into producing exactly what they want.

                                          I think a lot of hate, as always, come mostly from ignorance. Once you know the time and effort that someone can put into this, it's harder to discredit them.

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