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    "I refuse to treat left handed people. It's a lifestyle I don't agree with."

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      what about uniformed nazis or uniformed zionists?

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        "Ah, but they choose to act on it! You see, my old preacher struggled with gay thoughts all the time because of Satan. He told us so nearly every Sunday. But did he act on them? No! He was straight, just as god intended.

        So those people having gay thoughts are CHOOSING to be gay when they could pray and get a wife and have children like the lord said."

        -Some dipshit I know

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        "He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."

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          My first college was a technical college that also trained nurses. If there’s one thing I learned it’s that nurses have nasty hygiene habits. Hopefully that gets washed out (pun intended) in the field; eventually.

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          A nurse once told me to "mind my own fucking business" when I said "are you fucking kidding me?" to seeing her pull off her mask to cough into her hand and go back to the shit she was working on during covid lock downs. In the ER nurses station, surrounded by nurses with asks completely down or with noses poking out.

          10/10

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            "He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."

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            "You know what I'm talking about; the homosexual fantasies the devil constantly sends into everyone's heads since they became teenagers. Those ones. ... What do you mean 'no'?"

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              i dont know who or what to blame but some healthcare professionals are among the most cruel members of society

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                "You know what I'm talking about; the homosexual fantasies the devil constantly sends into everyone's heads since they became teenagers. Those ones. ... What do you mean 'no'?"

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                Tangentially related, or at least it made me think of it.

                Orson Scott Card said this:

                Ender’s childhood is based, albeit loosely, on my own; his relationship with Peter and Valentine is based, not on my actual relationship with my older brother and sister, but rather on the way I conceived those relationships to be when I was Ender’s age. Ender’s revised understanding of Peter late in life parallels in emotion the same revision I went through in my teens as I discovered… my childish view of my older brother was hopelessly wrong

                For those that don't know, Peter abused the hell out of Ender. Not a huge spoiler. Another time he said this:

                The dark secret of homosexual society … is how many homosexuals first entered into that world through a disturbing seduction or rape or molestation or abuse

                Then he went on to write several of the same character. Either homosexual or asexual who takes a wife in order to raise children. But it's literally never about the woman. Anton was mostly open about his sexuality but married a woman. Ender had no sexual urges (there was a lot of underage homo-adjacent stuff and some sister stuff, but not necessarily gay) until he married. And did he marry her for her? Nope. The first thing he thinks of is how her 6 kids need him. Ansset is gay and married a woman. It's pretty obvious he believes a lot of folks are gay because they were abused and it's pretty obvious he was abused. And he believes those men should get married and raise children because that's the highest calling.

                I'm not usually a "homophobic means closeted homosexual" but I'm of the firm belief that Card is so far in the closet he's finding Christmas presents.

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                  Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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                    i dont know who or what to blame but some healthcare professionals are among the most cruel members of society

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                    Some think they know biology sooo well, and that LGBTs are anomalies not worthy of life

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                      what about uniformed nazis or uniformed zionists?

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                      "So who can I refuse treatment to?"

                      "That's the neat part. You don't."

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                        Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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                        Doesn't this fall under the Hippocratic oath anyways? Or am I mistaken

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                          "He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."

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                          Something like this is what encouraged my wife's conservative grandmother to reconsider her thoughts on the topic. She heard about a gay teen who committed suicide and asked "if it was a choice, why wouldn't they just choose not to be gay instead of killing themselves?"

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                            "So who can I refuse treatment to?"

                            "That's the neat part. You don't."

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                            never have refused. never will.

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                              "Is this career path okay with discrimination? Because I have groups I want to die."

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                                Doesn't this fall under the Hippocratic oath anyways? Or am I mistaken

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                                The oath is a promise, not a law. People break promises all the time.

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                                  Some think they know biology sooo well, and that LGBTs are anomalies not worthy of life

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                                  Hospital worker here. No amount of education can undo the dogma of right wing extremism. You wouldn't think hateful bigots would be counted among nurses, doctors, etc since they literally spent years studying exactly why they should know better.

                                  But then Fox or some preacher starts hating on trans folks and suddenly their medical knowledge about the community is just straight into the dumpster.

                                  They need to be fired.

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                                    Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.

                                    I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.

                                    If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.

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                                      never have refused. never will.

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                                      But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.

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                                        Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.

                                        I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.

                                        If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.

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                                        If you become a medical profession, do your job. End of story. Leave your personal crap at the door or get a new job.

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                                          But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.

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                                          the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?

                                          not an actual right. if you can’t provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, you’re in the wrong industry.

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