He Use To Drop Acid Before Interviews
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No one person has ever invented a genre of music. Dont get me wrong, I won't argue against calling him the grandad of metal or whatever it is, but he INVENTED heavey metal? Fucking insane take.
Well, Christian Vander invented Zeuhl, but he can damn well keep it.
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How do you accidentally bite the head off a bat? That's like accidentally sticking your penis in someone other than your SO.
Dude, the internet is full of videos of the latter. As far as I can tell that's a pretty frequent occurrence - your analogy does not hold.
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Ozzy Osbourne aka: the prince of darkness and his band Black Sabbath and later solo Ozzy, are some of the originators of what we now know as heavy metal. Ozzy was well known for onstage theatrics which were popular at the time for bands like Sabbath and Alice Cooper. Big stage shows showing fake gore and violence like the precursors to Gwar. They would act out killing people and animals on stage as part of their showmanship routine and throw offal and guts into the crowd. "Worship Satan". Have women in lingerie on stage for no reason but to get covered in "blood" or act like they were being murdered. Eventually the crowds started throwing stuff back. One such stage show involved a fan throwing a "live" bat on stage. Ozzy picked it up and bit it's head off "not knowing" it was alive. There are conflicting stories about this of course.
Much of this also led to the satanic panic we experienced as kids in the 80's and 90's.
Likely a lot of these actions were because Ozzy was a raging alcoholic and drug user for much of his professional life. There are lots of interviews with him completely fucked out of his brain. He would intentionally drop acid and booze before said interviews and sometimes even his band mates couldn't handle him. Like Kieth Richards people even joked that Ozzy would outlive everyone because he had done so much stupid shit publicly over the course of his life and survived.
Ozzy was one of the artists that morphed the huge epic stage shows of the 60's rock and roll era into the chaos and drama of early heavy metal. Aside from his shortcomings Ozzy was an original rock and roll master.
It was not "his band". Although Ozzy was in Black Sabbath from the beginning, he was enlisted by Bill Ward and Tony Iommi together with Geezer Butler because as a drummer and a guitarist with a vision they needed bass and vocals with them.
Ozzy was kicked out in 1979 and started his solo career in the shock rock tradition he is mostly known for. The idea that sparked Black Sabbath however was a heavier blues than ever heard before and that was Ward and Iommi.
As you say, they were some of the originators of heavy metal. There is no single inventor of the genre. There never is. Culture is cross pollination and collaboration.
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It was not "his band". Although Ozzy was in Black Sabbath from the beginning, he was enlisted by Bill Ward and Tony Iommi together with Geezer Butler because as a drummer and a guitarist with a vision they needed bass and vocals with them.
Ozzy was kicked out in 1979 and started his solo career in the shock rock tradition he is mostly known for. The idea that sparked Black Sabbath however was a heavier blues than ever heard before and that was Ward and Iommi.
As you say, they were some of the originators of heavy metal. There is no single inventor of the genre. There never is. Culture is cross pollination and collaboration.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ozzy made it "his band". That's what front men did then. The sound came.from the band. The recognition came from the front man. In this case Ozzy.
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Why is no one mentioning that he once peed on the Alamo?... Does no one remember the Alamo?
He didn’t piss on the actual Alamo but it was close enough Texas didn’t care
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He didn’t piss on the actual Alamo but it was close enough Texas didn’t care
Ok, you're officially right, as in he did not pee on the actual Alamo... he peed on the Alamo Cenotaph Monument, which is the monument to honor those who fell in the battle. I'm not sure that's any better, and I can understand why the Texans were upset by it.
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Ozzy made it "his band". That's what front men did then. The sound came.from the band. The recognition came from the front man. In this case Ozzy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Who's band was it when they fired Ozzy?
Edit: about the front man status of the band - https://www.noise11.com/news/fact-check-did-charlie-watts-say-to-mick-jagger-youre-my-fucking-singer-20210828
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Ok, you're officially right, as in he did not pee on the actual Alamo... he peed on the Alamo Cenotaph Monument, which is the monument to honor those who fell in the battle. I'm not sure that's any better, and I can understand why the Texans were upset by it.
It’s definitely not better, and, it’s right there in full view of every damn thing and person who would be at the Alamo. But it wasn’t the Alamo. Certainly an important detail that’s been…not remembered…over time.
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Ok, you're officially right, as in he did not pee on the actual Alamo... he peed on the Alamo Cenotaph Monument, which is the monument to honor those who fell in the battle. I'm not sure that's any better, and I can understand why the Texans were upset by it.
Well, it deserved to be pissed on, so it is a shame it was not the actual Alamo. Bunch of traitorous slavers.
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OMG HE KILLED KENNY!!!
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He's like the only major rock star from the 60s-80s period I can think of who I haven't heard about sexually harassing or assaulting someone at some point
The couple used to physically fight regularly and, according to Osbourne, they would "beat the shit out of each other." She has described herself as "a beaten woman" when she was at the hands of husband Ozzy where he once knocked out her front teeth. She once retaliated by throwing a full bottle of scotch at his head.
The thing with ozzy is that all his demons were very firmly in his past and he owned up and fixed it for the most part. He used to be a drug addled asshole but he didn’t remain so
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Who's band was it when they fired Ozzy?
Edit: about the front man status of the band - https://www.noise11.com/news/fact-check-did-charlie-watts-say-to-mick-jagger-youre-my-fucking-singer-20210828
wrote last edited by [email protected]Who's band when they change their sound so much they basically fall into obscurity after Ozzy leaves?
Dio was a shit front man and his presence lost fans immediately. That they hung in for three more albums was valiant but pointless. Dragging out the death of the band over the next several decades because their sound was so good without Ozzy.
And had Charlie "fired" Mick, the same fate would have befallen the rolling stones as did Sabbath. You could have all sound you want yet without the charisma you had nothing.
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Who's band when they change their sound so much they basically fall into obscurity after Ozzy leaves?
Dio was a shit front man and his presence lost fans immediately. That they hung in for three more albums was valiant but pointless. Dragging out the death of the band over the next several decades because their sound was so good without Ozzy.
And had Charlie "fired" Mick, the same fate would have befallen the rolling stones as did Sabbath. You could have all sound you want yet without the charisma you had nothing.
Are you by any chance a singer in a band that still hasn't caught a break because of external reasons?
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Ok, you're officially right, as in he did not pee on the actual Alamo... he peed on the Alamo Cenotaph Monument, which is the monument to honor those who fell in the battle. I'm not sure that's any better, and I can understand why the Texans were upset by it.
That whole war was a setup to take land from Mexico. We do not need to remember it with fondness any better than Vietnam or Iraq.
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Are you by any chance a singer in a band that still hasn't caught a break because of external reasons?
Why must it always turn into personal attacks when people realize that their point is actually pointless?
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From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Osbourne
The couple used to physically fight regularly and, according to Osbourne, they would "beat the shit out of each other." She has described herself as "a beaten woman" when she was at the hands of husband Ozzy where he once knocked out her front teeth. She once retaliated by throwing a full bottle of scotch at his head.
How much has society fucked me when my first thought was "well at least it was mutual abuse and he didn't rape a minor".
No. None of it is okay, what the fuck brain.
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If I recall correctly, the head biting was an accident.
You're thinking of Alice Cooper https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot1t9KZRsV4&list=PLAOj_bjbXN1YGZqCGw26osPoa7w8-i6Dq&index=3&pp=iAQB
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Why must it always turn into personal attacks when people realize that their point is actually pointless?
wrote last edited by [email protected]It was a joke based on the stereotype of singers and their ego. There are plenty of other stereotypes about instrumentalists, such as bass players being simple, lead guitarrist that find everything else support for solos, drummers being brutes, keyboardists being music theorists and so on. I thought you'd recognize it but alas.
But sure. You're using hypotheticals for arguments that you think is proof when presented with historical evidence that the frontman was one job of the band and not the entire act. There isn't really much to discuss against something like that. I could invent my own alternative history too. But why.
And it's not very nice to call the rest of the musicians in the band irrelevant and replaceable.
Edit: clarifications
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No one person has ever invented a genre of music. Dont get me wrong, I won't argue against calling him the grandad of metal or whatever it is, but he INVENTED heavey metal? Fucking insane take.
King Crimson's '21st century schizoid man' came out in '69, after the formation of black Sabbath but before their first album was released, and I think it has a decent claim to being a 'metal' song. There was definitely a vibe for that kind of musical experimentation around that time, although Black Sabbath can claim to be more defining of what 'metal' was.
Anyway yeah, agreed.
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How much has society fucked me when my first thought was "well at least it was mutual abuse and he didn't rape a minor".
No. None of it is okay, what the fuck brain.
It may not be ok, but certainly better than rape. They may have passed on another form of trauma to their kids like every generation before and it may have taken quite a long time but they did finally make things and each other better. Which I think is a good relationship in my book.
From my understanding anyway. Not gonna proclaim to be some Ozzy Osbourne biographer or something.
