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    I don't like this app. I don't like the idea of this app. I think the whole thing was misguided.

    But let me tell you of a time when I was younger and more festively slutty, I had a few encounters that might have made me a user. Not all men, no, but after the third time a dude threatens to rape you in a park, you start to wonder if you could be doing more to protect yourself.

    Remember, ladies, these days you can print your own handguns and make them look like whatever you want.

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    I'd suggest just buying a small frame pistol. Printing your own and making it work reliably takes a level of know-how and effort.

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    • F [email protected]

      How else would someone know you are a creep? the only way is to doxx them. Its the only way, there is no other way.

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      Sex offender registry.

      Surveillance by default never acceptable, not for "protection" of children, not for "protection" of women.

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      • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        Emphasis on anonymously.

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        Burner email. Wikileaks. Whistleblower program. Many such thing.

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          How is it always 4chan. Is the anime shit posting board really where peak tech literate internet users congregate.

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          You don't need to be a peak tech literate person to have been able to accomplish this.

          The level of neglect of security that was involved when creating that app should really be criminal. Door was left wide open for anyone to walk in a take a peek

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          • S [email protected]

            I'd suggest just buying a small frame pistol. Printing your own and making it work reliably takes a level of know-how and effort.

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            I'd suggest 3D printing for affordability and because shooting and maintaining a gun already takes a level of know-how and effort.

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            • G [email protected]

              You don't need to be a peak tech literate person to have been able to accomplish this.

              The level of neglect of security that was involved when creating that app should really be criminal. Door was left wide open for anyone to walk in a take a peek

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              You'd have to be in the top percentile. There's definitely less than 1% of the population scouring open cloud dumps for cool little treasures. I'm pretty sure less than 1% of people would even know where to begin doing something like that. Part of the issue of Lemmy is that I think people frequently grossly overestimate the tech literacy of the average person.

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              • F [email protected]

                You'd have to be in the top percentile. There's definitely less than 1% of the population scouring open cloud dumps for cool little treasures. I'm pretty sure less than 1% of people would even know where to begin doing something like that. Part of the issue of Lemmy is that I think people frequently grossly overestimate the tech literacy of the average person.

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                • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  Emphasis on anonymously.

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                  I mean how anonymous you need to be depends entirely on how legal the method you found the data is.

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                    It sucks that personal data is exploited and accessed, but a great thing it was discovered and called out. I wish it was disclosed responsibly though

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                    Usually I would agree, but as it happened to a bunch people who were doxxing thousands of men, I find it kind of hilarious and a peak karma moment!

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                      Sex offender registry.

                      Surveillance by default never acceptable, not for "protection" of children, not for "protection" of women.

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                      This case is odd. It's not some authority; it's a comnunity sharing information for theur own protection, a formalized gossip network of threat identification.

                      Not a perfect solution, not how I'd hanfle it, but the alternative is just assuming every man is a piece of shit.

                      Edit: which i assume most of you want to hide.

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                        How else would someone know you are a creep? the only way is to doxx them. Its the only way, there is no other way.

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                        They weren't doxxing you holy fuck men are fragile.

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                        • 58008@lemmy.world5 [email protected]

                          Slightly different motivations in play. For a start, how can they be femcels if the whole premise of the app is to screen men for the purposes of safe dating? Secondly, screening men so you don't get abused is not even in the same country, let alone ballpark, as doxxing people on 4chan because you're an antifeminist incel, an actual incel, who wants to score points with other worthless societal lip crust.

                          Was it a perfect app and did everyone on it comport themselves impeccably? Of course not, but you'd be an obtuse bad faith dickhead to demand otherwise. It's just the case that these are the kinds of lengths women have to go to to protect themselves.

                          And let's be clear, men do the same shit. Men talk about their bad dates with psycho women and warn each other about them, and they share nudes and other private stuff that the women didn't intend to be shared amongst the man's friend group. We don't need an app with photographic evidence and licence plates and addresses because the abuse men face is usually not being raped or beaten to a pulp. But if you're a pickup artist or a virulent incel, you'll probably have a database of women you've compiled for reasons other than your own safety. Stop pretending that the stresses of relationships that men and women face are equivalent.

                          That app is an emergent property of decades of men's grotesque behaviour. Technology has now put some power into the hands of women so that they can quickly and efficiently share info with each other, and you expect them to wave away that power and just let RNG dictate whether they have a normal date or a survival horror video game.

                          Fuck 4chan, fuck incels, the end.

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                          The app is illegal in the entire EU due to obvious gross privacy invasions. That should tell you everything you need to know about how morally justified it is.

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                            This moment when you have seen certain xkcds enough times, that you know wi ch one its going to be without even having to take a look at it.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              You'd have to be in the top percentile. There's definitely less than 1% of the population scouring open cloud dumps for cool little treasures. I'm pretty sure less than 1% of people would even know where to begin doing something like that. Part of the issue of Lemmy is that I think people frequently grossly overestimate the tech literacy of the average person.

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                              I wish you weren't right, but the other day my brother asked me how to open a zip file. He's 20.

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                                I mean how anonymous you need to be depends entirely on how legal the method you found the data is.

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                                Not really. I've heard stories about people getting sued after finding vulnerabilities. Of course the cases would get thrown out, but that's assuming you can eat the mountains of legal fees it'll take to actually get to a judge.

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                                  Not really. I've heard stories about people getting sued after finding vulnerabilities. Of course the cases would get thrown out, but that's assuming you can eat the mountains of legal fees it'll take to actually get to a judge.

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                                  Yep which is why you involve serious investigative journalists (what few are left). Not as good as going through a lawyer but they do have a tendency to protect their sources.

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                                    The app is illegal in the entire EU due to obvious gross privacy invasions. That should tell you everything you need to know about how morally justified it is.

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                                    Well legal or not, in the EU there are Facebook groups like this for every city. So it seems to be a need for women to ensure their safety. Don’t understand what’s so controversial about that… it’s like cancel culture: when there are no legal repercussions to misbehaving stuff like this happens.

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                                      You'd have to be in the top percentile. There's definitely less than 1% of the population scouring open cloud dumps for cool little treasures. I'm pretty sure less than 1% of people would even know where to begin doing something like that. Part of the issue of Lemmy is that I think people frequently grossly overestimate the tech literacy of the average person.

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                                      They really do. I'm quite tech savvy compared to the average and most of what people hand wave as easy around here is way beyond me.

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                                        Sex offender registry.

                                        Surveillance by default never acceptable, not for "protection" of children, not for "protection" of women.

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                                        The women who go on there clearly do it not out of spite for men but because the system is clearly not sufficiently ensuring their safety. I’m not saying it’s a good solution but idk why the internet is so enthusiastic about women who likely had bad experiences (including r*pe) being doxxed and calling it karma…

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                                          The women who go on there clearly do it not out of spite for men but because the system is clearly not sufficiently ensuring their safety. I’m not saying it’s a good solution but idk why the internet is so enthusiastic about women who likely had bad experiences (including r*pe) being doxxed and calling it karma…

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                                          Lemmy at least has a misogyny problem and is openly hostile to women. I don't know how common that is to the Internet itself these days but it doesn't seem like a good sign, even once you accept that Lemmy specifically recruited Redditors.

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