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    It is 100% used as a weapon to disenfranchise voters.

    I do however believe that it should be used on CANDIDATES.

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      A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

      I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

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      You cross out all of the 0s after the 1 and first 5 0s, so that the number is 100,000

      Or you cross out just the 1

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        Yeah obviously this could happen but I think a good idea would be every couple years or each election you do the test about the currently held election. Like something about policies and what the people are campaigning for. If you don't know what the hell is going on in politics at least a little you don't deserve the vote. Maybe dven make the bar to pass like 30%. Just don't let people vote if the only reason they came to vote is because someone said they will make it so less brown people are around

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        Check this out.

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        • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

          This should be mandatory. Cannot have mouth breathers vote for far right because they don't like the colour of their neighbours' skin.

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          First question on the test:
          "What is the most important American value?"

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            This was basically the first Jim Crow law to stop black people from voting. I would love a more informed voting pool but this would 100% immediately be used to disenfranchise specific groups.

            Just make the questions difficult for specific groups to know on average, or fill it full of trick questions with bad faith answers.

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            Perhaps the exam should have included a section on the history of civil rights and voting suppression in the United States.

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              A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

              I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

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              Cross 1, so it's 0

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                And 13 is unclear if it's strictly 'more than' or 'more than or equal'

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                That's on purpose - white skin? it can be either one; otherwise both are wrong.

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                  And 13 is unclear if it's strictly 'more than' or 'more than or equal'

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                  I would always assume not more than or equal unless it says so

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                    Yeah I have seen what one of those tests look like before

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                    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                      You cross out all of the 0s after the 1 and first 5 0s, so that the number is 100,000

                      Or you cross out just the 1

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                      Six zeroes, right? Five zeroes makes one hundred thousand. Six makes a million. Or am I missing something?

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                        I wonder if it would change anything if instead of a quiz you just like handed people a printout of like a summary of how government works from Wikipedia. Like, maybe convert some people who think the president makes laws.

                        It would probably still be corrupted by conservatives, sadly.

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                          Six zeroes, right? Five zeroes makes one hundred thousand. Six makes a million. Or am I missing something?

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                          You need to make it under one million

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                          • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                            Yeah I have seen what one of those tests look like before

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                            And you still think a test like that, applied to all, would be a good idea?

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                              It is 100% used as a weapon to disenfranchise voters.

                              I do however believe that it should be used on CANDIDATES.

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                              Who gets to design the test, though?

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                                Perhaps the exam should have included a section on the history of civil rights and voting suppression in the United States.

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                                Ah, yes: if you acknowledge it existed, you fail and can't vote.

                                That's what you had in mind, right? 'Cause that's what would happen.

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                                  A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

                                  I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

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                                  I think it's supposed to say "Cross out the digit necessary", so one digit, in which case cross out the 1 because there's enough 0's that crossing out one 0 isn't enough.

                                  It's 10 that has me confused. Is it asking for the last letter of the first word that starts with 'L' in that sentence? It doesn't actually specify.

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                                  • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                                    You need to cross out enough zeros so that it makes a million. Pretty sure

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                                    I mean purely pedantic, I have no idea the original test writers... but based on how I read the words

                                    The number (one singular number needs to be crossed out)

                                    Below one million, IE number < 1,000,000

                                    So my conclusion

                                    10000000000 < 1,000,000

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                                      I wonder if it would change anything if instead of a quiz you just like handed people a printout of like a summary of how government works from Wikipedia. Like, maybe convert some people who think the president makes laws.

                                      It would probably still be corrupted by conservatives, sadly.

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                                      If I've learned anything in the last 6 months it's that the president makes laws.

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                                      • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                                        You need to make it under one million

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                                        This is an example of the gotcha this test did, you can read the question two different ways. Making the number below the question one million, or making the number itself below one million.

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                                          This is probably in part a meritocracy, though how the government defines 'merit' is probably quite subjective.

                                          Humans are all too human. A purely statistical vote such as proportional representation is most likely the most scientific method regardless of what government is elected. If a civilisation must fall through its own vices and fallacy (oh hey, we've been there before!), then let's allow the collective consciousness of our fellow human beings work it out.

                                          Ever...so...fucking...slowly.

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