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    Catholics, christians, atheism, veganism.

    It's all the same to me. If they don't leave any room to speculate, learn, and grow beyond existing beliefs what's the point of living. 🤔

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    You understand christian and catholic is also the same right?

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      It’s funny being a socialist who doesn’t believe in god. I actually support the things Jesus taught becoming law, and Christians argue the most against it.

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        I'm as atheist as they come (I'm actually anti-theist in a lot of ways but I'm not militant about it) and I live in a very Red, very "Christian" area of the country, but with a couple of exceptions I haven't had too many problems with "Christians" in face to face encounters, though they are often very judgemental people and I don't particularly like associating with them. Still I haven't had to pull out my Halberd once.

        The only real way "Christians" negatively impact my life is when they vote in laws that requires non-"Christians" to follow their interpretation of their religion and/or try to impose their religious views on me such as making the display of "The Ten Commandments" (one of them anyway) a requirement in our public schools, which they do in my state with frequency.

        Actual Christians are much more rare and I get along with them a lot better. These people actually follow with Jesus teachings (within reason) and don't try to force their beliefs onto others. My mom was one such person in her later years and she was the best person I ever met in my life (before and after being more religious).

        It takes all kinds. What's much more important to me than what you believe is how you behave.

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          I once had a study partner who was raised like that. We were scheduling our first after school study session and trying to figure out time. I shoot out sunday and he goes "nah I have church, wait don't you have church?" "nah, I'm an atheist"

          dude vanished. Three days later I notice him trying to like... hide in a hoodie towards the opposite side of the class. I walk over, worried I offended him or something. He basically tells me that he can't interact with satanists and I just go "look, if you don't wanna interact with me, don't. You don't have to hide in a corner or try to avoid me. If you wanna draw the line at just existing in the same room, ok then."

          To his credit, he did try to have a study session with me after that, but I had to end it early. The dude was so on edge, it was like he was convinced I was gonna stab him at any moment.

          Years later he contacted me to apologize out of the blue on facebook. Went completely off grid traveling the world. My guess trying to compensate for just how little he knew of it.

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          Well at least he kept to himself, I met a guy in university who asked for my number to invite me to a soccer game and then kept texting me to join his prayer group until I blocked his number

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            I still think it's proportionally right to say "that's not normal". Maybe it's normal in the Southern United States, but it's definitely not normal compared with the rest of Christendom.

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            30-40% in the US believe in young earth creationism

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              That’s false, the creator of this comic is just trying to spread hate

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                When I was on dating apps, I specifically filtered out anyone with religious beliefs (other than Buddhists, because they seemed inoffensive to me).

                Got a selfie with a cross on your necklace? Nope. Same for women with photos with guns, anyone with an American flag, and any woman posing leaning against the hood of a sports car. There are telltale signs that we have different values. Honestly, I appreciate your advertising that we aren't compatible and saving me the effort finding out on my own.

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                women with photos with guns

                any woman posing leaning against the hood of a sports car

                We sure have different values

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                • missjinx@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  You understand christian and catholic is also the same right?

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                  They are not

                  Educated yourself

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                    Personally, I'm an atheist (anti-theist to be more precise), but I'll say that in my experience catholic christians tend to be less culty than protestant christians. Probably has something to do with the part that catholics believe that they actually have to be good vs protestants believing that simply believing is all you need.

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                    catholics believe that they actually have to be good vs protestants believing that simply believing is all you need

                    Wtf ?

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                      catholics believe that they actually have to be good vs protestants believing that simply believing is all you need

                      Wtf ?

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                      yes, seriously. this is a massive oversimplification, of course, but this is one of the major important differences between catholicism and protestantism.

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                        women with photos with guns

                        any woman posing leaning against the hood of a sports car

                        We sure have different values

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                        Perhaps. I think guns are something to be handled with care, not something to enjoy as a hobby. I think sports cars are a waste of money because, realistically, you'll be driving on city streets with speed limits in most cases.

                        I have a comfortable sedan because the pan taught me that I can't rely on ride-shares and mass transit in a once-in-a-lifetime (we hope) emergency. I barely drive it. It's a tool. And I don't own guns because I think they're dangerous and I'm prone to bouts of depression (I'm bi-polar). Anyone who thinks these are cool or part of their identity is not someone I want as a life partner. Even without being judgmental about these things, they signal different priorities from my own.

                        Now a someone with a full bookshelf in the background is another thing entirely. Or playing musical instruments. Or out in nature. These are things I value.

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                          No shit.

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                          Most of the planet suffers from some type of this mental illness and it threatens our survival as a species

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                            yes, seriously. this is a massive oversimplification, of course, but this is one of the major important differences between catholicism and protestantism.

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                            Well

                            No.

                            And there is no "big protestantism"

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                              I absolutely don't go asking around if you believe. And i can't legally carry swords. Or battle axes. Or even knives in general.

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                                I think simplifying the incarnation of God as a man and offering Himself up as a sacrifice for His children as "glorifying human sacrifice" is a massive misrepresentation. Unless that's supposed to be your point.

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                                That is precisely the point, well spotted.

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                                  It’s funny being a socialist who doesn’t believe in god. I actually support the things Jesus taught becoming law, and Christians argue the most against it.

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                                  Matthew 5 and 6 are almost entirely a good guide on how to live, and the literal exact opposite of how conservatives live. Starting from 5:21-22, Jesus says murder bad (obviously), but so is getting angry at fellow disciples. So much as calling someone a "fool" puts you at risk of the fires of Hell. 5:27-30 says adultery bad (obviously) but so is simply being lustful. Jesus says if you can't control your eyes, gouge em out. If you can't control your hands, cut em off. Jesus says divorce is equivalent to adultery. 33-37 say not to swear oaths, which I don't reay care about but I think it's funny that every christian politician swears on a bible, which Jesus literally says not to do. 38-42 is interesting; Jesus says that not only is "an eye for an eye" wrong, but that if someone wrongs you, you shouldn't retaliate at all. If someone asks for your shirt, you give them your coat as well. I like 5:42 the best:

                                  Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

                                  Matthew 5:43-48 says in absolutely no uncertain terms to love your enemies.

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                                    Catholics, christians, atheism, veganism.

                                    It's all the same to me. If they don't leave any room to speculate, learn, and grow beyond existing beliefs what's the point of living. 🤔

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                                    If only those people who don't already have a religious affiliation weren't so closed-minded, they might be able to adhere to a specific religious affiliation. If only those vegans were able to grow as people, they might just learn a thing or two about being okay with animal torture

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                                      What's the point of living if you can't find purpose and there's no real truth

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                                      I guess there isn't a point given to you by someone/something else, but you're free to pick one of your own if you want. Or not. Ultimately we just have our evolved desire to survive and see our loved ones do well.

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                                        What's the point of living if you can't find purpose and there's no real truth

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                                        That there's no objective purpose to life doesn't mean you can't find your own. Personally, I find purpose in enjoying my life and improving the lives of others. Doesn't matter that there isn't some grand design, I like what I'm doing.

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                                        • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                                          catholics believe that they actually have to be good vs protestants believing that simply believing is all you need

                                          Wtf ?

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                                          A doctrine of Catholicism is that you need good works as well as faith in order to get into Heaven. When Martin Luther broke away and started the Protestant movement, one of the big changes he made was to drop the "good works" part so that faith alone is sufficient to get into Heaven. (As I understand it, the argument behind this is that Jesus saves us from all of our sins already so therefore it does not matter how good or bad we are during our lives as long as we have faith.)

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