It's not "wrong" for an imposter to kill a crewmate because that's how they play.

This analogy is specifically from the perspective of crewmates. It is wrong for crewmates to die, actually, because this brings your team closer to defeat.

I think you might also think that I view the crewmates as women? No. The divide drawn here is between cooperative and uncooperative. Citizen and villain. The presence of imposters makes all crewmates less safe to be around. Unless you have ways of managing risk.

So it would be like green crewmates assuming a red crewmate is an imposter on the basis of them being red,

If the game were programmed such that red crewmates were exclusively the ones chosen to be imposters, regardless of how this might damage the video game's fun, don't you think that being near a red crew member would set off some alarm bells? Wouldn't you think of green crew members as more safe?

I've played plenty of RPGs where certain kinds of treasure chest, and certain kinds of treasure chest alone, require a degree of caution because I cannot know if they are mimics.

you’ll end up meeting women

Do I want to?

I'm posing a broader question about society to clarify a general concern with no particular motivation, and you make it about meeting women.
That suggests something about assumed motivations in these discussions.

That's the same logic that has rounding up brown people in the US now. Some of them might be working for the cartels, so better treat every gun as if it were loaded.

Rather than focus on the very real and legitimate issues at hand, they made it about themselves. Complaining in the thread about how they're being targeted as a man instead of having a modicum of introspection about why so many women feel this way. I don't respect or empathize with such a position.

I understand you but I want to continue being grossed out by the idea of people thinking I am a rapist. Purely because I don't want to be desensitized to this subject.

The issue inherent to it is when you have people giving seemingly literal agreement to satirical statements,

I will just take this at face value: what makes this an issue?

I don't know if my neighbor has double-locked their front door, should I go and check?

this discussion isn't just about visual shorthand of a comic, it has some amount of real world investment.

Yes, I am aware that jokes are political.

My reading is that this is yet another rearing of the man vs. bear debate. Our eternal prison.

so I can't tell you in definite terms what a reasonable suspicion is,

I'm not asking for definite terms, I'm suggesting that women have more experience dealing with men and danger and dangerous men than men do. Men do have a lot of opinions about it, though.

If we're using the example of the hotel room [...] If you start getting into hiding, configuring contraptions, barring the door with chairs,

In the comic, she just engages the deadbolt.

It has been some hours since I last looked at this thread, but I imagine that men are not upset she's being overly cautious, but rather that the comic is suggesting that they—they are taking this personally—are scarier people than women are. They are responding to hurt feelings.

Again, you cannot assume that they chose to call it unfair simply as a self-defense mechanism. Imagine someone accused your family of being murderers, then said the only reason you would be upset by that is if you really did have murderous proclivities and felt self-conscious about it.

And frankly, even if that was their entire motivation for calling it unfair in the first place, it does not mean they are wrong.

This analogy is specifically from the perspective of crewmates. It is wrong for crewmates to die, actually, because this brings your team closer to defeat.
I think you might also think that I view the crewmates as women?

No, I didn't think you were making the crewmates just women. My point was, it's not morally wrong for the imposters to kill in the game, because unlike real life, the sides are diametrically opposed and all players want their opponents to earnestly try to win. Crewmates don't want imposters to just let them do tasks because then there would be no game. In that sense, killing crewmates is cooperating by making it a fun challenge for everyone. By the same token, it's not morally wrong for crewmates to make accusations against people in meetings or otherwise treat them suspiciously, it's how everyone wants others to play. But the moral weight to accusations in real life means it's not ok to make them casually. There is a burden of proof to overcome.

If the game were programmed such that red crewmates were exclusively the ones chosen to be imposters, regardless of how this might damage the video game's fun, don't you think that being near a red crew member would set off some alarm bells? Wouldn't you think of green crew members as more safe?

I don't know where you are going with this. I guess my level of caution would depend on frequency of imposters. If half of red crewmates were imposters, sure. If it's 1 in 1000, I wouldn't be alarmed. But that's not representative of real life either. Neither predators nor victims of sexual crimes are exclusive to any group. We could talk about statistics but this is about perception of threat and fear. They're only very loosely tied to reality, especially when it comes to small samples like individual encounters with strangers.

I like this analogy so much and it's so on-point. Thanks writing this up

Huh? This literally what the meme is about and you are having a discussion in it's comment section beneath?

Men looking for women as romantic partners is like searching for potable water in a desert.

When looking for men as romantic partners is like searching for potable water in a SWAMP.

We're finally approaching some twisted semblance of equality via men becoming afraid of women in return ._.

Men who took the lesson to heart:
Ladies don't want to talk to you.
They don't want you to approach them.
They don't want you to initiate social interaction.
Men need to be less visible, less audible, overall less perceptible, because this coincides with them being less obnoxious.

Instead of teaching them to act in less obnoxious ways, society taught them to act less--period.

And so, I now see unironic posts showing up on social media of women asking each other (paraphrased),
"Why don't men ever talk to me anymore?"
"Why don't men ever approach me anymore?"
"Even when I see men in public, they never even acknowledge me. Why are they ignoring me? What is going on?"

A lot of folks heard the pleas of women wishing men would just leave them alone. And a fair proportion of the men acquiesced.

I mean, yeah, SOME didn't, and became even more obnoxious, but the chronically unfuckable bootlicking simps of the fascist grift are more miserable now than they've ever been; The few that "seem" "successful" are just poster children of survivorship bias, pied pipers leading the naive and highly suggestible to self-inflicted ruin.

I have divested myself of this bizarre tragedy of errors. Humans are humans. I treat humans like humans. If other people project weird freaky intentions upon me while I'm JUST trying to mind my own gods damned business existing within line of sight and vague proximity, that's THEIR skill issue. AT LEAST nonbinary asexual persons never get weird at me like the ones vested in all the maladaptive notions and festooned in toxic stereotypes... and it's refreshing. Good riddance to all the outdated reproductive caste dynamics. Good riddance to the gilded cage of having to drag-perform whatever the fuck I was assigned at birth.

I have friends that get read as women who can't do stuff that would be completely normal for any cis male (like going to a festival alone) because there is a real possibility of them being assaulted, murdered or at the very least getting harassed. And even if it is only one in a hundred men that would do such things it doesn't matter if the other 99 do nothing to stop it.

Not overly much - society has "dysfunctioned" along perfectly well for millennia. It will continue to be dysfunctional for many more millennia.

Better to enjoy your life and spite that dysfunction than to live under its heel.

You're giving too much credit to bears. They can chomp your face just because they feelt like it, or out of pure curiosity, and won't even notice you struggling to fight them off. Check some stories of zookepers and circus workers killed by them, you'll find that wild animals are completely unpredictable.

Nah, this is about predators, not aliens.

Oh yes, based on that logic, I got cheated, so every women is a whore.

Because with the possible exception of the bi's, you're all inherently unqualified for the job of setting up a heterosexual relationship. Why don't you ask straight men to pick out sweaters? Because we're bad at it at an anatomical level.

Honestly so happy I’m married, I’m sorry for all of y’all. Dystopian times.

But hey to add my two cents: I think that fear is marketable, so women are over fed on paranoia.

At the same time, porn and propaganda have put bad expectations in some percentile of dumb men.

Both sexes are generally out of social practice, and societal trust is at an all time low. Most people are nice, but most people are also awkward.

So get out there and meet some people, don’t even do so romantically, just go learn how to interact with people, form some friendships.