inside job
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This one is the most annoying for me. It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of heat, where a person clearly doesn't understand that heat can accumulate regardless of where it comes from.
It's like saying a garden hose cannot fill up a swimming pool because the mouth of the garden hose isn't as big as the pool.
It's not even that. It's a refusal to acknowledge the beams don't need to melt, they need to soften just past load carrying capacity. Metal increases in ductility with heat until it slowly becomes liquid and skyscrapers have a fuckload of weight on them
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Im sure most people have experience with plastic becoming bendy before it melts. It's not hard to translate that to metal.
Yeah, okay I'll grant that.
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In a world with Superman, a crazy supervillain doing an inside job to try and make Supes look like he failed would be totally plausible.
Isn't this a plot point in Batman v. Superman? A bomb at a congressional hearing kills everyone but Superman.
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Yeah no one will ever interpret this as a joke.
i get all my facts from comic strips posted on niche internet communities
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Isn't this a plot point in Batman v. Superman? A bomb at a congressional hearing kills everyone but Superman.
Sounds like a fake movie that doesn't exist as anything but a hypothetical origin for a future Injustice-type Superman.
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And that the building itself may contain other unknown components that may make a jet fuel fire worse
What about an airliner's worth of pulverized aluminum?
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Hey, how about let's not promote right wing conspiracy theories?
Hope you'll excuse my ignorance but how is this a right wing conspiracy theory?
This is the first time I hear of it being a partisan theory, and I remember the day it happened. (I'm not from the USA)
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Hope you'll excuse my ignorance but how is this a right wing conspiracy theory?
This is the first time I hear of it being a partisan theory, and I remember the day it happened. (I'm not from the USA)
Because idiots tend to vote conservative
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The cutscene was hardcoded it turns out
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Hope you'll excuse my ignorance but how is this a right wing conspiracy theory?
This is the first time I hear of it being a partisan theory, and I remember the day it happened. (I'm not from the USA)
I guess this in itself is not right-wing, as far as I'm aware. It's more that the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right because, in general, the conspiracy theory rabbit hole often lead to anti-Semitism. If you look at Q-Anon and pizzagate and a lot of far-right culture over the last decade, it's all conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The biggest predictor of whether you will believe any given conspiracy theory is if you already believe another conspiracy theory.
So, in conclusion, you're correct and it isn't right wing. It's the first step down that path and I automatically lumped it in with the right because of that
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Yeah no one will ever interpret this as a joke.
Un-ironically, believing in conspiracy theories is a good first step towards the alt-right. I hate to say it because it sounds so alarmist and slippery-slope-ist but I believe it to be true. If you look at QAnon and a big chunk of Trump supporters, they have the same conspiracy theory mindset. A lot of conspiracy theories have anti-Semitism at the core, and believing one conspiracy theory (especially about a subject as emotionally charged and that has caused so much harm historically) is a good way to start believing more and more conspiracy theories.
We have seen in the recent past how the alt-right uses comics and "harmless" memes to recruit and it's a big factor as to how Trump won the first presidency.
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Un-ironically, believing in conspiracy theories is a good first step towards the alt-right. I hate to say it because it sounds so alarmist and slippery-slope-ist but I believe it to be true. If you look at QAnon and a big chunk of Trump supporters, they have the same conspiracy theory mindset. A lot of conspiracy theories have anti-Semitism at the core, and believing one conspiracy theory (especially about a subject as emotionally charged and that has caused so much harm historically) is a good way to start believing more and more conspiracy theories.
We have seen in the recent past how the alt-right uses comics and "harmless" memes to recruit and it's a big factor as to how Trump won the first presidency.
TIL that laughing at a conspiracy theory means you believe that conspiracy theory.
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Hey, how about let's not promote right wing conspiracy theories?
How is it a partisan conspiracy theory?
Also the evidence for it is surprisingly solid. See the BBC report of building 7 had collapsed with building 7 standing in the background 30minutes prior to it collapsing. Building 7 also collapses exactly how a planned demolition collapses. Their have been many engineering experts who have said it would not have collapsed from being struct by said plane. I am an engineering student and ran the simulations myself (yes I accounted for weakened steel due to heat) it didn't collapse.
Their is a photograph of some student doing an art project with hundreds of boxes of blasting caps behind him a couple days prior. All the buildings that collapsed had their internal electrical redone just prior to collapse. Economically their had just been a quote to remove the asbestos that was more than the value of the building and made traditional demolition also absurdly expensive. The insurance payout was the best possible outcome for the owner plus the government picks up the cleanup cost.
Then u have the whole passport thing. The plane its inhabitants the building nothing survived but the hijackers passport managed to make it out down to the street and into the perfect location to get picked up. The odds of that are incredible.
I have seen to much evidence to believe it was an accident I fully believe it was planned and once you have have seen the evidence I have u will also believe.
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Here comes WTC7 and the planeless unexplained collapse, too
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I guess this in itself is not right-wing, as far as I'm aware. It's more that the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right because, in general, the conspiracy theory rabbit hole often lead to anti-Semitism. If you look at Q-Anon and pizzagate and a lot of far-right culture over the last decade, it's all conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The biggest predictor of whether you will believe any given conspiracy theory is if you already believe another conspiracy theory.
So, in conclusion, you're correct and it isn't right wing. It's the first step down that path and I automatically lumped it in with the right because of that
Ooh right I get you. Thanks for taking the time!
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What about an airliner's worth of pulverized aluminum?
There was a documentary of a private investigation where they looked into that very topic. It was on very late at night and I fell asleep.
Never seen it since. So pissed about it.
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It's not even that. It's a refusal to acknowledge the beams don't need to melt, they need to soften just past load carrying capacity. Metal increases in ductility with heat until it slowly becomes liquid and skyscrapers have a fuckload of weight on them
The whole conspiracy theory centering around Building 7 completely neglected that the sprinklers simply weren't able to be turned on, or work with any pressure, and that the building design was enabling the fire to reach stupidly high temperatures.
They evacuated the area when the building started BULGING and a column was shifting out of it's socket.
Perfectly consistent with loss of strength in the beams.
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Here comes WTC7 and the planeless unexplained collapse, too
A 10 storey gash and sprinklers not turning on tends to create those conditions for collapse
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Ooh right I get you. Thanks for taking the time!
You're welcome
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How is it a partisan conspiracy theory?
Also the evidence for it is surprisingly solid. See the BBC report of building 7 had collapsed with building 7 standing in the background 30minutes prior to it collapsing. Building 7 also collapses exactly how a planned demolition collapses. Their have been many engineering experts who have said it would not have collapsed from being struct by said plane. I am an engineering student and ran the simulations myself (yes I accounted for weakened steel due to heat) it didn't collapse.
Their is a photograph of some student doing an art project with hundreds of boxes of blasting caps behind him a couple days prior. All the buildings that collapsed had their internal electrical redone just prior to collapse. Economically their had just been a quote to remove the asbestos that was more than the value of the building and made traditional demolition also absurdly expensive. The insurance payout was the best possible outcome for the owner plus the government picks up the cleanup cost.
Then u have the whole passport thing. The plane its inhabitants the building nothing survived but the hijackers passport managed to make it out down to the street and into the perfect location to get picked up. The odds of that are incredible.
I have seen to much evidence to believe it was an accident I fully believe it was planned and once you have have seen the evidence I have u will also believe.
Copy-and-paste of my answer to a different commenter below about why I said "right wing". I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm happy for myself to believe the official story for 9/11 for now.
I guess this in itself is not right-wing, as far as I'm aware. It's more that the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right because, in general, the conspiracy theory rabbit hole often lead to anti-Semitism. If you look at Q-Anon and pizzagate and a lot of far-right culture over the last decade, it's all conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The biggest predictor of whether you will believe any given conspiracy theory is if you already believe another conspiracy theory.