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    Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299

    Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199

    Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199

    The only person being represented by this meme is OP.

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    Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.

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      It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.

      Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.

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        Not really. I know a few iPhone users who have kept their phones for a long time. The most impressive case was a guy who had had the same phone for 11 years and only had to buy a new one because an update fried the old one.

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        I don't understand how one can believe it just works. Update fries the phone so they buy a new one from the same company that can't or won't make sure updates don't fry older phones. Apple hates backwards compatibility.

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          Not in a literal sense but apple do tend to cripple old iPhone with their newest software update. I should know i owned an iPhone 12 mini on ios 17. That little bugger stutter everytime i pull down the control centre, scrolling through safari, scrolling through app, delay when pressing keyboard and yes, the battery is above 90% iirc.

          My wife's iphone xr is even worse, granted it has been 7 years but god damn, that thing make my blood boil. Its still on ios 17, i cant imagine how slow it's gonna be on ios 18. Battery is at 82% though but i dont think replacing battery is worth it at the moment. Just waiting for the right moment to upgrade.

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          I’ve had the same experience. I had a 6s and an XR, and they both slowed down tremendously overnight after iOS updates (not the same one, 6s happened a few years before). Also, the update for the 6s that caused performance issues also removed/made redundant a lot of the OS features that made use of 3D Touch, because the newer phones didn’t have it anymore. For the 6s, I know it wasn’t a battery issue; I replaced that battery, and it didn’t fix them.

          For a minute, battery replacements or repairs weren’t even a reasonable option, with how repair-unfriendly their phones had gotten. But afaik they’ve improved in that regard, providing official tools, parts and guidance. Also, you can call them to have them activate the Face ID module if you replace a screen, which is a big win for right-to-repair. Props to them for that!

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            I don't understand how one can believe it just works. Update fries the phone so they buy a new one from the same company that can't or won't make sure updates don't fry older phones. Apple hates backwards compatibility.

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            I mean, I don't get the love for Apple either, I just didn't agree with the claim that all iPhone users were the types to discard a perfectly good phone for a new one 2 years later just because the new one was cooler.

            The fact that someone can buy a new iPhone after having had an old one crash due to updates is their own prerogative.

            I personally have a very low understanding of tech, but to me, it just seems like an industry standard to make phones that won't live forever. Everybody does it. They could have given us phones with batteries that never wear out. They could have designed the tech to make sure it would work on all phones. They could halt tech evolution to make sure that no phone is left behind. But none of them do.

            I originally wanted a button phone after my prior smartphone died. Then my government decided to force a new ID system on its citizens and make it exceedingly annoying and difficult to function in society without a smartphone. So I had to cave and get myself a new smartphone and wave goodbye to button phones forever.

            I don't know how long this phone will last me, but I hope it will survive ten years at the very least. Even though it isn't an iPhone I avoid updates for as long as the phone allows me to because I don't want to wake up one day and suddenly have a phone that doesn't work.

            We are all being scammed to some extent. Not just iPhone users.

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              When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.

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                Funny you said that because one has 4GB ram and another has 3GB ram. Plus, my wife has a 64GB model and its almost full. Performance really took a nose dive. You must have a really low bar regarding performance.

                Take a look at the video. Opening app takes awhile compared to XS and multitasking is shit. Opened up a camera and go back to another app, guess what? Refreshed.

                Video

                Video 2

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                I don’t know what you want me to say. I don’t have an XR apart from a test one at work maybe.

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                  Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.

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                  My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.

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                    When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.

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                    Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”

                    Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.

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                      So tired of the audience participation in these endless phone wars. Oh you have a smart phone? Dope! They’re cool and useful. Anyway

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                      I like Apple’s os, App Store and processors better than android’s. I like Android’s everything else better than apple’s.

                      Ultimately you are getting fucked anyway but you get to pick the guy who fucks you.

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                        It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.

                        Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.

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                        Dude I’m still bitter about Apple killing 3D Touch. It’s like companies research what I like and when they find it that’s the tipping point for killing a feature/flavor/model/etc.

                        Canonical had a really interesting idea for a Linux phone back in the day but it never launched. There are some Linux phones trying to make that happen but it’s just not likely to see the widespread adoption needed to fund development.

                        We can’t have nice things.

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                          Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.

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                          Seems relevant….
                          https://imgur.com/ZDDnQDB

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                            When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.

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                            Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS

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                              Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS

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                              Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. If so, hilarious! But, it’s the expected response from an android Lemmy user to reference graphene os.

                              I actually bought a pixel and installed graphene on it just to give it a try. It’s not bad, and I can do probably 90% of the things I need on there. There are even some nice apps and features you can’t get on iOS (storage scopes is cool). But, at the end of the day, switching is hard. My biggest gripe is backups suck and fail 100% of the time, also no support for touchless payments. Also, android doesn’t manage battery life that well. Some days it’s fine, but other days it randomly drains to almost zero. At the end of the day, I don’t think the solution is to hack together an OS to work on a company’s hardware that doesn’t really support the mission. I wish the Graphene team would partner with Fairphone or something. Anyway, I’ll probably keep using the Pixel here and there, but I don’t know if I could daily drive it. I did try.

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                                Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.

                                That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.

                                The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.

                                As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.

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                                That's where their 5-7 year support window

                                This is one of the worse scams that Apple perpetrate with iOS admins iPadOS - yes, the devices get updates for as many years as specified. However, basically all apps available for iOS and iPadOS only support the two latest versions of the OS, meaning that once your device is out of support, it functionally becomes a brick after one year, as no apps will support it anymore.

                                Android has a worse record of keeping the OS up to date on devices, but app developers on Android routinely support 10 or more versions back of the OS, making this problem less severe.

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                                  My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.

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                                  i am withing this from my 2018 Huawei : Hello !

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                                    My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.

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                                    I tried using and old iPhone. You can't install anything on it. If you go to the app store, it won't tell you which apps are compatible. It'll just download the app, and then show you error.

                                    Android is better at this, apps generally support old versions for longer, and the play store is better at showing compatible apps.

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                                      When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.

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                                      While this is a fair criticism of Android you don't exactly have access to check and see if Apple is doing the same thing like you do with Android. You're really just taking Apple at their word and they wont even let you cloud save to anything but their servers and can dig through your photos to find illegal content.

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                                        Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.

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                                        Is it really 40$ in that form factor?

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                                          This logic is outdated. The top of the line iPhones are no more (and sometimes a bit less) than comparable Android flagships.

                                          Their base models come in around high-midrange Android, true. But some of the specs (CPU/camera) still beat out Android phones at their price range. Heck on CPU they often beat more expensive Android phones.

                                          I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of Apple it's just like, it's not just them. I've had something like 9 Android phones and 6 iPhones. Really in the end they aren't that different day-to-day.

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                                          I dont think the iPhone camera is better. In blind tests done by MKBHD, Google pixels consistently win.

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