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  • Yes Facebook is a dumpster fire, but this is always interesting if you are on there.

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    Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.

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    just stay on livejournal

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    Are you serious? It's a propaganda tool basically owned by the Russian government now.

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    Man, the idea of people changing names based on who they bang is so wild to me.

    I can't believe how much of the world just... goes with it and thinks it's normal. It's definitely not normal. Just some serious psychosexual patriarchy mindfuck going on for so many people.

    Anglosaxon cultures out there arguing about pronouns and it turns out they just casually rewrite their identity based on who's the owner of their daughters going into the second quarter of the 21st century. Nuts.

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    -gestures wildly at facebook-

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    If I had some other platform that was viable I would not be there. Some of it is beyond my control, but none of those friends use Livejournal anymore.

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    Honestly, following gossip about people you're actually connected with is still better than random accounts, pages, and posts you don't follow being forced on your feed.

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    It unexpectedly happened to me recently, and I didn't mean to follow the gossip so much as I was surprised, and I discovered the husband had put up a video of the wife cheating on him that he had hired a private investigator to follow. That is very much not nice, but also cheating is crappy. Last person I expected it from would be her.

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    It's normal because it's what most do. That's what normality is

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    Every part of that statement is arguable and every argument would be a bit of a waste of time, so we can probably leave it there.

    It's definitely not what most do where I'm from, though. It's not a thing at all.

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    Normality: the condition of being normal; the state of being usual, typical, or expected

    Typical and even expected in a lot of places. There it would be considered normal

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    You added "a lot of places". It's not typical or expected here, so it's not normal here.

    So "normalcy" on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

    Told you it was a waste of time.

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    It's normal in those places because it's usual, typical or expected. If it's not those things where you live, it's not normal where you live. It's not any harder than that.

    You were complaining about places where people "just go with it". If by that you mean places where it's typical or even expected, then it's normal there.

    It's not necessarily geographical but just about community, group or societal behaviour.

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    Okay, so it's not normal.

    It's me speaking, I say it's not normal here, so it's not normal. By your definition.

    Of course if we dispense with the pendantry we would argue that the point of saying it's not normal is to highlight how it's inconsistent with the approach of society towards the rest of itself, so a society where women change their name to take their husband's is not normal because it's inconsistent with the rest of the mores regarding the interactions between men and women.

    But that'd require not nitpicking a thing to pick a pedantic fight online that is a waste of time, so... not in the scope of this conversation, I suppose.

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    You don't think it's normal but for them it is. Simple as

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    No, wait, why can you phrase it that way but not "it's not normal but they think it is".

    Why is one of those statements not equivalent to the other?

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    Saying you have to stay on Facebook to keep up with people says you aren't able or willing to put in the energy required to keep up with people yourself.

    There are hundreds of communication platforms, and a most of them aren't run by assholes trying to ruin society for their own personal gain.

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    People used to write letters to stay in touch. Literally basic email could fill that niche.

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    Because for them over in wherever it is normal. If they lived where you live it wouldn't be normal.

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    Okay, but what says their perspective takes precedence? You're saying it's normal for them. Cool. I'm saying it's not normal for us.

    Why is their normal a higher priority than our not normal? Either "normal" is a meaningless concept or you need a better justification than that.