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      Workers were paid. More interesting to ask why they built the pyramids.

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        Workers were paid. More interesting to ask why they built the pyramids.

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        'Paid'. When some egyptaboo tells you that "there weren't slaves in Egypt at this time", remember the 'workers' were paid in housing, bread, and beer. And were kinda bound by their duty to the God-Pharaoh. Totally not slavery!

        Tho now thinking of it it's not like my wage stretches farther than that either...

        Edit: spelling and punctuation are hard.

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          'Paid'. When some egyptaboo tells you that "there weren't slaves in Egypt at this time", remember the 'workers' were paid in housing, bread, and beer. And were kinda bound by their duty to the God-Pharaoh. Totally not slavery!

          Tho now thinking of it it's not like my wage stretches farther than that either...

          Edit: spelling and punctuation are hard.

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          remember the 'workers' were paid in housing, bread, and beer.

          That's more than many people will get today from a single job. 💀

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            remember the 'workers' were paid in housing, bread, and beer.

            That's more than many people will get today from a single job. 💀

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            You can't be fucking serious.

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              You can't be fucking serious.

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              I am. Feel free to talk with people about this who live in old vehicles, on a friends' couch or literally on the streets despite having a "job". Or those who only have proper housing and food by working two or more jobs.

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                I am. Feel free to talk with people about this who live in old vehicles, on a friends' couch or literally on the streets despite having a "job". Or those who only have proper housing and food by working two or more jobs.

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                Oh, one precision : people in the USA

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                  Oh, one precision : people in the USA

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                  Or other third world countries.

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                    Or other third world countries.

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                    The only reason we don't have this shit in more rich countries often is that people receive welfare despite working a full-time job because it doesn't pay properly. In Germany we call this "aufstocken". Basically another way to create wage slavery and redirect money from the state towards the private sector.
                    The US is just very obvious and very loud about everything. Other third world countries indeed don't have it any better.

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                      The only reason we don't have this shit in more rich countries often is that people receive welfare despite working a full-time job because it doesn't pay properly. In Germany we call this "aufstocken". Basically another way to create wage slavery and redirect money from the state towards the private sector.
                      The US is just very obvious and very loud about everything. Other third world countries indeed don't have it any better.

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                      In Estonia it's just solved by the minimum wage being high enough to afford rent, even if it's just a tiny studio in the larger cities for that wage.

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                        In Estonia it's just solved by the minimum wage being high enough to afford rent, even if it's just a tiny studio in the larger cities for that wage.

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                        We also have a minimum wage, and if it was implemented the way social democrats and greens wanted it it would be fine. Unfortunately we also have "Christian" democrats (think US Republicans from 10 years ago) and Libertarians, who managed to fuck it up so there are quite a few "exceptions" for who can be underpayed below the minimum now. Long-time (>6 months) jobless people for example (they can also be fired just before gaining the "privilege" to receive said minimum, resetting the timer for them).
                        There are more exceptions of course, can't have the "wrong" people get enough money to life from.

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                          We also have a minimum wage, and if it was implemented the way social democrats and greens wanted it it would be fine. Unfortunately we also have "Christian" democrats (think US Republicans from 10 years ago) and Libertarians, who managed to fuck it up so there are quite a few "exceptions" for who can be underpayed below the minimum now. Long-time (>6 months) jobless people for example (they can also be fired just before gaining the "privilege" to receive said minimum, resetting the timer for them).
                          There are more exceptions of course, can't have the "wrong" people get enough money to life from.

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                          Tbh if some people working full-time in Germany can't afford rent on minimum wage, I suspect it's an issue with the rent, not the minimum wage. Minimum wage in Germany is more than 2x what it is in Estonia. I think your minimum is around our average (a bit over 2k euros per month pre-tax)

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                            Tbh if some people working full-time in Germany can't afford rent on minimum wage, I suspect it's an issue with the rent, not the minimum wage. Minimum wage in Germany is more than 2x what it is in Estonia. I think your minimum is around our average (a bit over 2k euros per month pre-tax)

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                            You can afford rent (although it costs about 60%-70% of what you have) mostly, outside of city centres. The rent costs are indeed abysmal though.
                            Main problem is the constant fight of right-wingers (incl. "Christians") and libtards to make exceptions who's eligible for minimum wage and keep the minimum wage as low as possible. With welfare they already managed to get it as low as human rights and our constitution allows, they literally can't reduce it as this would clearly violate human dignity according to our highest courts. So they punch holes in the minimum wage to make sure as many people as possible are stuck at welfare-level. The housing market in that bracket basically collapsed, to quote someone working at a federal agency: "These emergeny vouchers (for housing) aren't worth shit anymore."
                            (Those vouchers, lit. "Dringlichkeitsbescheinigung", were originally meant to be the the last line of defence to prevent people from landing on the street).

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                              Ancient superyacht

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