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    Also depends on what type of heat you use

    I have a heat pump, so my air conditioner is my heater, heat pumps are basically just an AC running in reverse.

    In general, my wife and I don't mind it being cold, we're willing to let the temperature in our house get down to about the mid-low 50s (F, obviously) in the winter, so we do end up using a lot less electricity in the winter. But if we tried to keep our house at a warmer temperature that most people would find comfortable, it would probably be about the same.

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    Our gas bill over winters is over $200/month (AUD), due to our gas central heater

    Comparatively, our three split-system ACs (2 bedrooms, main living area) over summer at most cost us ~$50/month.

    Yet even still, trying to convince the missus that we’re better off running the split-systems in heater-mode would be more efficient and cost-effective is an uphill struggle.

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      Central Europe here. We had like two weeks of scorching hell and then it has been raining ever since.

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        Most refrigerants from ~25 years ago have long since been banned, and the units themselves may not be suitable for use with modern ones.

        Unless you’re referring to an evaporative-style cooler, but they’re practically useless in exceptionally hot weather (anything north of like ~33 degrees Celsius).

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        It doesn’t matter if the refrigerant is banned.

        A properly installed system is hermetically sealed. All the refrigerant it will ever need was put in the day it was installed.

        I still regularly service 20+ year old R22 systems that are still trucking along just fine. And just because a refrigerant is banned doesn’t mean you cannot get it. I just bought a new tank of R-22 a few weeks ago. It was ridiculously expensive because they don’t make it anymore, but it’s perfectly legal to buy. And there are drop in replacements if a system does get damaged and develops a leak.

        A week ago I retrofitted my neighbors R22 unit to 407C because the lawn guys hit the suction line with an edger. Cost my neighbor a thousand dollars to do it, but still cheaper than a new unit. He plans on selling the house in 5 years, so the electricity savings from a new unit don’t interest him, and his current unit is perfectly serviceable.

        Most of these companies that say you “need” a new unit, are just out to make a buck. Unless the unit is physically destroyed or you plan to keep the house for 20+ years for the energy savings, there is little reason to get a new unit. Don’t get scammed.

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          My AC gave up the ghost 5 weeks ago.

          I'm watching Happy Gilmore 2 as the crew installs a new one.

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            It doesn’t matter if the refrigerant is banned.

            A properly installed system is hermetically sealed. All the refrigerant it will ever need was put in the day it was installed.

            I still regularly service 20+ year old R22 systems that are still trucking along just fine. And just because a refrigerant is banned doesn’t mean you cannot get it. I just bought a new tank of R-22 a few weeks ago. It was ridiculously expensive because they don’t make it anymore, but it’s perfectly legal to buy. And there are drop in replacements if a system does get damaged and develops a leak.

            A week ago I retrofitted my neighbors R22 unit to 407C because the lawn guys hit the suction line with an edger. Cost my neighbor a thousand dollars to do it, but still cheaper than a new unit. He plans on selling the house in 5 years, so the electricity savings from a new unit don’t interest him, and his current unit is perfectly serviceable.

            Most of these companies that say you “need” a new unit, are just out to make a buck. Unless the unit is physically destroyed or you plan to keep the house for 20+ years for the energy savings, there is little reason to get a new unit. Don’t get scammed.

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            A new AC here costs 400$...

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              I used to live in a small apartment building without individual mailboxes so we could just see each other's power bills. The first time they arrived, I was dumbfounded by how much everyone else paid. I'm not gonna give exact numbers because it means nothing unless you live in the same country and state but it's enough to say their bills was literally 10 to 15 times what mine was. It was a very warm place so I just assumed they ran the AC all the time until we went through a particularly hot summer and I decided to just eat the bill and ran it 24/7 as well. My bill was a little over 3 times the usual amount. WHAT THE HELL WAS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE BUILDING DOING?!

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              without individual mailboxes so we could just see each other’s power bills.

              Really? Them bills didn't come in named envelopes?

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                This is why you get a whole house fan… if you are able to have one installed.

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                So a fan instead of a roof?

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                  So a fan instead of a roof?

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                  No.

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                  Cooling with a Whole House Fan

                  A whole-house fan, in combination with other cooling systems, can meet all or most of your home cooling needs year round.

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                  Energy.gov (www.energy.gov)

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                    Central Europe here. We had like two weeks of scorching hell and then it has been raining ever since.

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                    Northern Europe here, same.

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                      No.

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                      Cooling with a Whole House Fan

                      A whole-house fan, in combination with other cooling systems, can meet all or most of your home cooling needs year round.

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                      Energy.gov (www.energy.gov)

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                      I was being ironic.

                      Seems clever and simple enough, the concept has existed for years.

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                        [laughs in cheap municipal hydroelectric power]

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                          How bout keep it on for another little bit til it gets cool enough for uou then shut it off? And by cool enough for you I mean about 5 degrees F warmer than you'd ideally want it

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                            A new AC here costs 400$...

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                            For a central air split system?

                            Cause that’s what most American homes have.

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                              I used to live in a small apartment building without individual mailboxes so we could just see each other's power bills. The first time they arrived, I was dumbfounded by how much everyone else paid. I'm not gonna give exact numbers because it means nothing unless you live in the same country and state but it's enough to say their bills was literally 10 to 15 times what mine was. It was a very warm place so I just assumed they ran the AC all the time until we went through a particularly hot summer and I decided to just eat the bill and ran it 24/7 as well. My bill was a little over 3 times the usual amount. WHAT THE HELL WAS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE BUILDING DOING?!

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                              If they were doing what my relative was doing - running the AC in one area yet leaving the windows open in another. Complained to me about the huge electric bill…I didn’t see the point in trying to explain why their behavior was driving that bill.

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                                For a central air split system?

                                Cause that’s what most American homes have.

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                                No, I don't have that sort of fancy nonsense

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                                  You know how there are people who like being really warm? Just try to imagine what they feel like. It isn't your shitty apartment. You're in a tropical location, on the beach. This is amazing. It's not hot, it's summery warmth! People would pay for this probably! Maybe you'll eventually get into it and save a bunch of money?

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                                    Northern Europe here, same.

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                                    Where the hell is the rain, I'm fucking dying being outside all day during all this sunshine

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                                      During the day go out

                                      During night use an air conditioned sleep pod (cheaper than cooling the whole home)

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                                      During the day go out

                                      You mean work?

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                                        Where the hell is the rain, I'm fucking dying being outside all day during all this sunshine

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                                        Well I said northern but it's southern north lol, Netherlands, dunno where you are. Literally rained an hour ago, it drenched our tent that was out to dry while we prepare for camping trip this weekend. Last couple of weeks it's definitely been touch and go on the regular.

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                                          How bout keep it on for another little bit til it gets cool enough for uou then shut it off? And by cool enough for you I mean about 5 degrees F warmer than you'd ideally want it

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                                          Just so you can turn it on again in 15 minutes once it gets unbearable again.

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