Red is peak truck for me.

Hey dumb dumb you ain't the guy we are talking about sounds like you would use the truck. But I'm sure you are going up north to secluded location where there isn't any pavement or launches definitely no way you could just rent a kayak/canoe, ain't no business like that you could probably make a fortune. If only there was some contraption to attach your bike to say a roof or a trunk another million dollar idea. Good luck with your denial.

A “regular bed” has always been an 8ft bed for the last 60-odd years. Look at any full-sized Ford, GMC, AMC, or Chevrolet pickup from the 70s, 80s, or 90s -- it’s nearly impossible to find one with anything but an 8ft bed. If you wanted anything shorter you went with a “toy truck” like the Mazda B2000 to B2600i, or a Toyota Tacoma.

It’s just the utter lack of 8ft beds in full-sized modern (last 10-15 years) trucks that has had the industry reclassifying uselessly lobotomized truck beds as “regular” and normal-length beds as “extended”

Shift the tax to vehicle weight with a separate scale for electric cars but don't have exceptions for commercial vehicles that could be used as private vehicles. For example, exempt cement trucks but not f350 dualies. It sucks that anyone with a legit business need for a f350 will get hit but that'll just be the cost of doing business.

Extended bed is the only bed.

You can feel any way you like. That is your irrevocable right. I have neither the ability nor desire to deprive you or anyone else of it.

However if you drive a big truck with a tiny bed, you are a silly little man!

Rolling up north with a sedan that has kayaks on top and two bikes on the back and filled with camping gear sucks.

And no, where I go you can’t rent and the places you can rent are expensive and not set up for fishing. You keep pretending renting this stuff is cheap and convenient. It is not.

“Ope want to go scumbag launch my small boat off the riverbank better spend an hour securing a truck at Home Depot.” Yeah no

I'd be pissed if I bought a pickup that can't fit a damn couch

So you admit you need a truck out of convience and not necessity.

Yeah no shit. Everything but subsistence farming and eating gruel is a convenience. You’re not making a good case for your argument if you’re listing convenience as a con. Try again.

I had a 98 Ford Probe with a Mazda four cylinder engine. I loved that car. The flip up headlights never failed me even in Minnesota winter ice storms.

Chevy still makes a regular cab, 8' bed version of the Silverado in the entry-level "WT" (work truck) trim, which at least theoretically is available to non-fleet buyers. Good luck finding one though.

I'm not sure I would say that they're struggling, though correct me if I'm wrong. They're a very young company with a very small headcount that's gotten a pretty incredible amount of work done in a short time.

Mmm gruel. Come on bro your telling me it's necessary for you to live kayaking in upper Michigan? Some people want to haul kids to soccer in a truck some people haul their cute plastic kayaks and overpriced carbon fiber bicycles I'm not here to judge. You probably bring fudge home don't you?

We all can’t just be do nothing basement dwellers like yourself. With that lifestyle I can see how you would be bitter about people having a good time outdoors.

nerd

The issue is they used to base it on vehicle classification AND size, but the manufacturers just classified everything as a light truck to getbaround hlthe regulations. So they got rid of that loophole, but now a Toyota Corolla has less-strict fuel economy standards than an old-style Ford Ranger. So they essentially outlawed small trucks.

It's not just trucks, either. The small cargo van no longer exists. The Ford Transit Connect, Ram Promaster City, and Nissan NV200 were all discontinued around 2021 because they can no longer meet CAFE regulations at that size.

The Gord Maverick is a small truck, but it comes standard as a hybrid and has very little towing or hauling capacity as a result.

that's one sexy looking truck! practical and it has a nice color!

Ya. It makes sense this is what the majority of people in the US are buying.

The small car market only constitutes like 2% of the entire market.

The other 98% are suvs and pick up trucks which means most people aren't buying a truck because they need it for work or some kind of utility reason. They don't need 8ft beds. They need back seats because they don't want to buy a sedan.

But since the customer is almost never right outside of matters of taste what they all really want is a sadan that looks like a pick up. So here we are.

Lol I see I have triggered you, flee I must back to the batcave I just have to drive 8hrs away to visit my mom's basement because mine isn't good enough time to rent the home Depot truck again!