Professor's got it right
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Normalizes the notion that it's normal at all to say things like "What if we don't feel comfortable around X" when most of liberal America is fine or uncaring at worst. Of course a professor will dismiss the question, it shouldn't be seen as something exceptional, it's not heroic to tell an idiot to shut up. It's continuing the atomization of ideologies. I don't even care if it's something that really happened, this kind of shit is used by both sides to ramp up hysteria. But I guess that ship has long since sailed.
If you haven't spent time actively reading and understanding how the right thinks, talks and shares with each other in their own online spaces, you will think it's ridiculous, so I don't know why I tried to pass the message along here in these very sheltered communities. Maybe it will give someone something to think about.
I mean it is normal to want to discuss anything. I think one of the main problems of today is actually we can't discuss anything for more than five minutes before someone gets lynched. But that is also because there are so many people that "discuss" stuff in bad faith that everyone else has probably lost faith in discussions.
On the issue of hysteria and normalizing stuff, in the span of a six months the US degraded from being the center of many branches of science and tech to a country that redacts its articles to censor words like transmission (because it contains trans, yea) and gender. I don't think you can call it hysteria when it is really happening and has become the new normal.
"you will think it's ridiculous"
I will think what is ridiculous? This event described in the meme? I find it worrying that someone gets so uncomfortable that he or she can't treat a person based on their sexual and or gender orientation. On the other hand everyone has their limits and being a doctor is hard and perhaps it really is not for that person or he or she can't deal with this. And this goes for both sides. You may be very liberally minded doctor but what happens when a wounded person they bring to the hospital turns out to be someone who raped a child? It is fucking brutal. If you can't even make it past sexual orientation, how the fuck are you going to deal with such stuff?
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Did they discussed treating an old orange pedophile?
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In many countries it's illegal to refuse treatment so you would literally have to find a new career
it's also against their Hippocratic oath.
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Isn't this like a decade old at this point?
Seems it'll remain relevant for another decade, at least, possibly more
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I don't trust anything about this... meme? I don't know what we call context-less clips of other people's comments that get circulated.
Whatever it is, it is trying to sound positive but it's implying some false narratives. It's implying that this is a common or new issue that professors are always dealing with, that there's some common wave of pushback against treating LGBTQ patients. If you're studying to be a doctor or healthcare professional, most likely you already don't give half a fuck about someone's gender identity or sexuality unless it impacts their treatment. (Yes there are some bigoted healthcare professionals out there, but they're not the norm.)
The narrative here is making it seem like poor, naive students are now suddenly worried about how they're going to deal with all these trans and gay people flooding the healthcare industry.
If it's not subtly trying to introduce a false narrative like this, it's serving that purpose all the same and should be buried and not circulated any further.
Medical malpractice is a huge issue for LGBT people - especially trans people who require specific care and are therefore much easier to spot. It's honestly a big issue in the sciences in general, and it's definitely not a new issue, but more likely against specific groups. Women are much more likely to have to be their own advocates to get proper care, often being denied pain medication, told that they're just making up their symptoms, or having their agency denied or choice of treatment being deferred to their husbands (generally when it comes to things that might affect sex, such as surgeries to constrict the vagina after giving birth or having their uterus removed due to medical issues).
And it's not just that trans people often have to understand HRT at a doctorate level in order to fight for their right to the proper care and treatment that they deserve. I have read plenty of stories of trans people being denied care by bigoted healthcare workers - even a case of a woman in New York who only found out she had an aggressive form of cancer after the technician who diagnosed her tests called her to ask her how her chemo was going. Her doctor simply never told her the diagnosis and the only reason that she's still alive is because of that technician who made sure that she got proper treatment after the shock of hearing that she didn't even know that she had cancer.
Bias affects medicine all the way up the chain, from how nurses treat you to what gets taught in schools and even what fields get research funding. I taught my therapist pretty much everything he knows about transgender people, for example - because he's older and they didn't teach about trans people. And I have no qualifications in the field other than being trans and therefore having to teach myself to ensure I get proper care. Many doctors don't know about trans specific medical care despite HRT starting to be researched in the 1920s in Germany (and only reappearing at the end of the 20th century after the Nazis burnt all the research). The medical field is taught based on the white body of a specific weight, which leaves out the differences in care that black people and people above or below that weight require. We only really started looking into what exactly female ejaculate is in the past 30 years or so. AIDS research was denied funding by the US government for at least a year while roughly 120 Americans died of AIDS every day, during which time all bottled medication was pulled from stores and the safety seal was developed and implemented over the course of 3 months because somebody poisoned a couple of bottles of Advil with cyanide.
It's not a new issue, but it's become more prevalent in recent years as people like the student above have become emboldened by recent events - like the rulings that say that doctors don't have to treat certain people if it would "violate their religious beliefs."
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Something like this is what encouraged my wife's conservative grandmother to reconsider her thoughts on the topic. She heard about a gay teen who committed suicide and asked "if it was a choice, why wouldn't they just choose not to be gay instead of killing themselves?"
"if it was a choice, why wouldn't they just choose not to be gay instead of killing themselves?"
Props to gramma. A lot of conservative people honestly just would dismiss it with the backwards logic; "so stupid of them to kill themselves when they could've just chosen not to be gay".
I'm unsure whether they actually believe it themselves, though.
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This would never fly in today's era. Nor should it.
But about two decades ago I dated a gastroenterologist... I think she had around 13 years of schooling.
Anyways, her first day of med school, they made the entire class watch gay porn. Like vicious, graphic, excessively graphic gay porn.
With of course the professor saying if this makes you uncomfortable, you'd best find a new track. Because you ain't going to make it, this is going to be your life: assholes, boils, pus, cancer, shit, piss, if you're going to be a gastroenterologist you're going to have your head up people's asses your whole career....
Etc
Wonder if there were any jars involved......that would be a pretty unfortunate situation.
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It's interesting that no one wants to deny medical care for:
- murderers
- pedophiles
- thieves
- corrupt politicians
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I wish this is how it was at my medical school. My med school is attached to a deeply religious university and some of our professors said some pretty wild shit in lectures. I was almost always the one to key up on the mic in recorded lectures to fight them on it.
I'm sad to say there were a couple lectures that I was just too demoralized to fight back directly, but I did talk to my classmates to correct the record after those lectures.
Deeply religious and... Medical School feels like two things that should be separate lol.
Wouldn't the solution for Cardiac Ataxia be to pray it away in their eyes? -
Deeply religious and... Medical School feels like two things that should be separate lol.
Wouldn't the solution for Cardiac Ataxia be to pray it away in their eyes?It is an actual, accredited medical school and we still take the same board exams. The subjects where the religiosity shows the most are the ethics classes, abortion, and LGBTQ+ healthcare. Otherwise, the most prominent manifestation was prayer at the start of lectures and exams.
