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  • wraithgear@lemmy.worldW
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    since the 1770’s i know of two wars the US has won against an insurgency.

    the US has been in a LOT of wars though.
    and one of the things they learned was that bombs were not very effective, and the us would have a much worse time off it bombing their own cities. A-wall’s and desertions would go through the roof, they would be out gunned a thousand to one, with literally more guns then people. Isfulstructure they would rely on is vulnerable from every angle, the government would be prisoners in their own bunkers.

    it would be devestating if the us has an insurgency

  • M
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    LOL “pathetic weaklings”

    What wouldn’t you suggest they do? And keep in mind, your suggestion needs to include something you yourself are willing to do.

    Because it seems so easy for so many to send tens of thousands of people to their deaths. Put up or shut up.

    And for the record, blind ignorance fuels blanket accusations. Never in my entire life have I ever said american’s are heroes, patriots, the biggest fighters for freedom. The last time I stood for anything American was the pledge when I was in gradeshool.

    So you’re free to take your shit and shove it right back to where you found it.

  • M
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    This again.

    As I said on the other comment you said the same thing on:

    Looks like you ended up with all that genocide but now with a side of LGBTQ+ persecution, illegal deportations, and concentration camps!

    How’s all that winning feeling bud?

  • B
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    I'm European, seeing you go down is winning

  • B
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    I'm not american, I don't need to do shit, on the contrary.
    I love watching Trump fuck up your cancer country.

  • _autumnmoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone_
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    America didn't win in Afghanistan, and you think it would win a war if the military was forced to turn their guns on friends and family?

  • M
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    Words look so cool when strung together to make a rallying statement of intent to act, don’t they.

    But you all seem to always fall short of action.

    There was supposed to be an uprising in November, December, January, February, March, shall I go on?

    You all are so quick to climb over one another to be the first to pat yourselves on the back for typing up the coolest words to inspire OTHERS to act. You all salivate at the idea of bringing all types of violence to Nazis, the upper classes, the CEOs… yet, nothing. Words.

    Here I’m only speaking the truth. I’ll make no apologies that you don’t like it or that it’s unpopular. Im too old and too tired of pretending to believe that any of you have the strength of conviction to leave your houses let alone begin a grassroots movement to make change. So forgive me for not buying into this make believe army of yours.

    For fuck’s sake. Tend of thousands of you couldn’t be bothered to tick a fucking box to save democracy.

    Now you’re wanting everyone to believe you’re willing to lay down your life for it? Pretend all you want bud. But don’t get mad when people call you out.

    Fucking LOL.

  • M
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    Yes. I absolutely do. There’s a reason Trump fired military commanders.

  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU
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    To be fair some did try but there was surprisingly little resistance

    I mean, you can see this to some degree in cities like LA or Chicago or even Houston. Collective resistance efforts happen. You can - and people occasionally do - throw rocks or fire guns or even just fling their sandwiches at the occupying paramilitary.

    But much like with the occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan or the capture of Syria or the bombings in Yemen or the invasion of Ukraine or the militarization of far-right governments in Guatamala and El Salvador and Honduras and Argentina, the state can bring a lot more violence against a nascent resistance movement than the movement can repel.

    Without an active armed ally - like the French during the American Revolution or the Soviets in Vietnam - a government with the benefit of mass surveillance and air power and armored infantry is very difficult to dislodge.

    Just look at Cuba, a country that's been suffering the armed occupation of Guantanamo Bay for 60 years. Or Gaza, for that matter.

  • H
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    Weapons are for the weak.

  • M
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    Ahh. So you’re a troll that’s entirely irrelevant to the discussion. I wish you had said this earlier. I wouldn’t have wasted my time.

  • _autumnmoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone_
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    commanders don't really matter if the soldiers revolt

  • M
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    Yeah. So. I’m not sure what your damage is, but it’s not my business. There’s clear something going on there and it’s not my problem.

    You’re derailing the conversation to illustrate that you get some sadistic joy from the suffering of others and I don’t believe giving you the platform to continue is healthy for anyone involved, so I’m blocking you.

    Be sure to come at me with your sock puppets so I can block them too.

    I think it’s just better for everyone.

  • B
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    your life is a waste of time

  • M
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    For all of our sakes, I’m sure we won’t have to worry about it because it’s not going to happen anyway.

  • M
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    lol… it’s not the 1940’s. You know this right? It’s important that you know this.

  • M
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    Best of luck.

  • B
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    some sadistic joy from the suffering of other

    LOL
    The majority of the world wants you violent imperialist mass murdererd gone.
    It's a joyful event.
    No crocodile tears for any of you or your kind.

  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU
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    Of course, nobody could even imagine the absolute horror of the Holocaust.

    The Armenians could. As could the Nambians. As could the residents of Nanjing, China and Gando, Korea.

    But these mass murders were so chronically under-reported - even deliberately suppressed - in media controlled by the political opposition and its allies, that it was possible to never know they'd happened much less consider they could happen locally.

    I would also note how the Israel assassination of journalists across Gaza and the West Bank has gone a long way towards suppressing the size and scale of their genocide, particularly at the upper reaches of western media. You absolutely can talk to people in DC or London or Berlin who will (either deliberately or out of their own cloistered media consumption habits) not recognize the scale of atrocity.

    But even if you could have convinced someone staring into a cattle car in Poland or Austria that this was the beginning of the end, what would you expect this person to do? Surrounded by armed men who were, in turn, surrounded by tanks and supported by bombers, how were they expected to respond?

    The countries had already been defeated. Their people had already been broken on the wheel of war. They were civilians without the training, much less the materials, to mount any kind of guerrilla campaign. They had no Che Guevara or Ho Chi Mein or even a Huey P. Newton to rally them. There certainly wasn't a Mao on hand to lead them in a Long March for their survival and eventual return.

    They'd put their trust in the established state lords. Those lords had failed. And now there was nothing standing between them and the gas chambers. Feels trite to say they all should have rushed the guards in a mob, when the Charge of the Light Brigade was the last famous incident of such epic folly.

  • W
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    The soldiers are people who looked at this and said "sign me up".