Most people talking about "punching Nazis" are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you're talking about "punching Nazis" in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.

In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it's easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.

Same reason people never bothered to do a proper search when all knowledge on the internet was indexed on forums - people can't be bothered, and want another person to find information for them before they make a real effort to find it themselves.

Cake day: 23 October 2023

Guess what made me leave lol

Well look here, for instance:

Blocked

(old.reddit.com)

Looks like a combination of:

• A power trippin’ mod looking to promote their discord.

• A feeling of nowhere else to go as Reddit enshittifies.

• Unawareness that https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama exists because Reddit shadow bans anyone who links Lemmy.

And this is literally a self-hosting community… Look at the comments, they all know Discord is bad, but the mood is “WTF else are ya gonna do?”

For some context, localllama itself is kinda a refuge from Twitter/Linkedin spaces filled with Tech Bro stink, and it’s already been shattered by random niche LLM Discords (like BeaverAI, which you will find in another thread).

Hey, fuck you man, I'm not cool, you're cool!

I got Boost once they released the Lemmy version, and then I got one single PragerU ad. That pissed me off, a lot, those shitheads are my enemies. I basically coin-flipped between picking a different app that wouldn't give ad space to those pricks, and just buying the ad-free thing, but laziness prevailed and I bought the thing instead. Still on Boost to this day.

Fuck advertising, the entire advertising industry, and the plain concept of forcing your brand in front of a person's eyes non-consentually, should all disappear in the future.

The Nazis didn't just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.

We're long past the "attempted" takeover.

Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind

What a load of sludgy shit. "from our position" - this a group statement or...? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what's that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.

Firstly,

Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone's religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.

Beginning In the 1920's and through the '30's, years before the Nazis committed "genocide and conquest" the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That's where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.

Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?

I recently downloaded a mod for a game from a custom content creator who hosted their own webpage. I experienced issues, so I went to see if there was a support page of common issues. Instead, their "support" was a link to their Discord server.

Which means instead of an FAQ page, or an email account that they could respond to in their own time, this person preferred to moderate a live chatroom where people ask the same questions over and over again? On the one hand, as a user of their cc, it's reassuring to have someone who worked on the content there to live-answer any questions. I got my problem solved quickly, so the user experience is definitely positive. On the other hand, I would've thought keeping up essentially a "customer support" Discord to be far more tedious and frustrating than maintaining other common alternatives.

I just can't imagine having the time and energy to stay on top of a Discord where everyone is upset and you have to repeat yourself constantly. It sounds like a living Hell.

Over on the new Digg I got a comment auto moderated by AI for describing a scenario where I angrily shakes my fist at someone and gave them a thumbs down because they almost hit a goose.

Violence

There's like, a billion fucking nazi, incel, misogynist subs on reddit that are just allowed to exist

Tell any one of those subreddit-goers to fuck off for their nazi incel misogynist bullshit? Permabanned

Thank you for including a link; this sounds like a fucking joke.

The threshold of Nazi takeover could reasonably be taken to be the Enabling Act. There has been no equivalent in the US.

hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.

Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.

Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?

Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn't it?

That’s where we are now

So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I'd do, do I take it you're out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?

If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say "punch a Nazi."

Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.

We need forums back.

Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.

like requiring your REAL ID

Remember when you didn't even need to give an email address to sign up?

They were nazis before the genocide and conquest