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  • P [email protected]

    Not only did I not mean to imply that, I didn't imply that. If you read that into my comment it's 100% you.

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    Well that's good. It would be silly to claim to fight against fascism and then not vote, amirite or amirite lol

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      Where I have lived for my adult life in 3 significantly different parts of the country, it is true that my vote would have not at all affected the outcome on nearly all election positions I could vote for.

      This was true multiple elections in a row. Whether my vote merely reaffirmed what was clearly going to happen regardless, or if mine was a waste since it was clearly not going to matter. In the vast majority of elections I did or could have voted in, I have looked after the fact and seen how my contribution, or lack of, Did. Not. Fucking. Matter.

      Also most options I am presented with most of the time are uninspiring or downright evil.

      As for effecting change. That's a waste of time. I learned that early on. Everyone has their viewpoints and beliefs and the vast majority will not be swayed. They either will not change, or were already on your side.

      Its not my responsibility to "solve" America's 250 years of lies.

      So have fun on your high horse as you highlight one cherry-picked recent primary result for one city in a country filled with 90,000 governments and countless elected positions.

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      In the vast majority of elections I did or could have voted in, I have looked after the fact and seen how my contribution, or lack of, Did. Not. Fucking. Matter.

      Elections are almost never decided by a single vote, do you think your vote only matters if it's the deciding vote? I've watched so many election votes counts and so often I see evil win because the vote total for the lesser evil just didn't bother to vote that eletcion. I've also seen areas flip because enough people think their vote doesn't matter because it's a "safe seat" until it isn't. Why be one of those people, just vote every time. There will be an election this November that almost no one will vote in. I've seen vote totals in the 100s and elections decided by less than 10 votes. It would be so easy to sway the results if just a handful more people voted.

      Also most options I am presented with most of the time are uninspiring or downright evil.

      Vote for the lesser evil otherwise you are more likely to get the greater evil.

      Its not my responsibility to "solve" America's 250 years of lies.

      I'm not asking or expecting you to, I just want you to vote. Voting doesn't solve things it's just a tug of war and I want more people constantly tugging for the lesser evil.

      So have fun on your high horse as you highlight one cherry-picked recent primary result for one city in a country filled with 90,000 governments and countless elected positions.

      It's to show you that if you turn out, you can affect elections. You aren't the only person with your belief that voting doesn't matter, there are tons of you. If you all get out and vote you'll make a difference, but it starts with you.

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      • X [email protected]

        I don't think it gives any indication that there is only two options

        oh I see the red and blue arrows now, still you could say this anywhere and be suspicious

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        #125

        Yeah in practice you're right - if you live in the Netherlands and are adamant that you're not voting GroenLinks, I can be fairly certain that you're also not going to vote D66 or PvdD.

        But that doesn't allow me to go on a rant about two-or-fewer-party systems 😛

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        • C [email protected]

          I'm committed to not stopping the fire.

          There's a difference between being "committed to not stop the fire" and recognizing my tools at my disposal don't work for me.

          A better version of your example is more like my single fire extinguisher might help me with some of my fire, but it turns out my neighbors lit the whole fucking neighborhood on fire, so rather than fighting my little fire and exhausting myself pointlessly, I chose to walk out and acknowledge I can't make a difference here.

          If anything I should move out of the neighborhood but that's a luxury I don't have.

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          This would be an argument for not attending protests or volunteering. But voting takes basically no fucking effort.

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          • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

            Yeah I'm not voting for a capitalist party.

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            Do you also refuse to use dollars, because they’re an evil capitalist construct?

            You can hate a system and push for its improvement while still using what you can out of it.

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            • M [email protected]

              One is actively requesting avoidance and the other merely suggesting ulterior paths. It's the difference between someone saying, "punch that fuck in the face!" and, "words will do you no good with this one".

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              I am entirely lost.

              Sahara is saying not to date republicans, and not to let them trick you. I'm saying the same thing.

              If you meet someone who, presumably like you, absolutely will not say anything until you do, then the both of you should write it down on a card and reveal them at the same time.

              Or, you should say something about building a border wall. See if they bite.

              Or, you should take them to see the Barbie movie. See if they shift in their chair too much.

              Like, there are solutions to this problem, and I feel like you're just not willing to see them.

              As a corollary, imagine you're gay in the 1960s. You can't tell anyone you're gay because you'll get beaten in an alley. But, you would still like to find other gay people. How would you do this?

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                History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

                Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

                Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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                19 upvotes, 84 downvotes

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                • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                  reddit.nazi

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                  lol hilariously bigoted of you... Genuinely, pathetic. You will never be capable of furthering your own cause with such a hateful attitude. Seriously, you should shut up about things you care about if this is your tact, because you will only hurt the cause.

                  While it is not academically accurate to say white is a race, it is colloquially accurate. So fuck off with your hateful pedantry if you know what's best for yourself and anti-racist causes.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    I am entirely lost.

                    Sahara is saying not to date republicans, and not to let them trick you. I'm saying the same thing.

                    If you meet someone who, presumably like you, absolutely will not say anything until you do, then the both of you should write it down on a card and reveal them at the same time.

                    Or, you should say something about building a border wall. See if they bite.

                    Or, you should take them to see the Barbie movie. See if they shift in their chair too much.

                    Like, there are solutions to this problem, and I feel like you're just not willing to see them.

                    As a corollary, imagine you're gay in the 1960s. You can't tell anyone you're gay because you'll get beaten in an alley. But, you would still like to find other gay people. How would you do this?

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                    #131

                    I am not dismissing the solutions. I am arguing against the original phrasing of the suggestion. If you rephrase it to mean something that wasn't originally said, then of course you won't understand the implications of the much more poorly stated version...

                    For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.

                    Ask them before meeting (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant), but don't tell them yours... If all good people followed that advice, then no good people will tell others their leanings first, and since no one is telling their leanings, no one would agree to meet.

                    It's right there, in two fucking sentences. How is this so difficult to understand?

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                      lol hilariously bigoted of you... Genuinely, pathetic. You will never be capable of furthering your own cause with such a hateful attitude. Seriously, you should shut up about things you care about if this is your tact, because you will only hurt the cause.

                      While it is not academically accurate to say white is a race, it is colloquially accurate. So fuck off with your hateful pedantry if you know what's best for yourself and anti-racist causes.

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                      Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅

                      Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅

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                      • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                        Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅

                        Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅

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                        Where did I say anything about reproduction? Are you so pathetic you cannot even work past baby's first talking points?

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                        • M [email protected]

                          I am not dismissing the solutions. I am arguing against the original phrasing of the suggestion. If you rephrase it to mean something that wasn't originally said, then of course you won't understand the implications of the much more poorly stated version...

                          For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.

                          Ask them before meeting (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant), but don't tell them yours... If all good people followed that advice, then no good people will tell others their leanings first, and since no one is telling their leanings, no one would agree to meet.

                          It's right there, in two fucking sentences. How is this so difficult to understand?

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                          (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant)

                          No, not literally... Okay.

                          MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.

                          "Make sure to not let them fool you" is a goal, "never tell them yours first" is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this "poorly stated" version just fine: this isn't programming, you can break the strategy's rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.

                          The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they're actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they're trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?

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                            Where did I say anything about reproduction? Are you so pathetic you cannot even work past baby's first talking points?

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                            You're shrieking with baby's first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby's first conceded.

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                              You're shrieking with baby's first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby's first conceded.

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                              I don't care who others date. I do care about people spreading racist hate. Your bigotry is not appreciated and it's hilarious that you claim to be against racism while espousing such bigotry. Genuinely, you are pathetically not self-aware.

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                                (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant)

                                No, not literally... Okay.

                                MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.

                                "Make sure to not let them fool you" is a goal, "never tell them yours first" is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this "poorly stated" version just fine: this isn't programming, you can break the strategy's rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.

                                The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they're actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they're trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?

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                                How are you this confused over two sentences? You are seriously braindead...

                                English isn't programming that's why PHRASING is important. If you cannot understand that basic, utterly foundational tenant of communication, then there truly is no hope for you.

                                Nobody should be required to understand what is meant by a poorly phrased sentiment. Good communication is about what messages can be received, not about what was intended. It's exactly why professional writers say to avoid idioms. It doesn't matter what is meant. It matters what can be received.

                                It is wholly on you if you continue to fail to understand this utterly basic lesson of clear communication. One more time just to be clear: I am not against the sentiment of what was said. I am against phrasing it in such flippantly silly ways.

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                                  I don't care who others date. I do care about people spreading racist hate. Your bigotry is not appreciated and it's hilarious that you claim to be against racism while espousing such bigotry. Genuinely, you are pathetically not self-aware.

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                                  You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.

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                                    How are you this confused over two sentences? You are seriously braindead...

                                    English isn't programming that's why PHRASING is important. If you cannot understand that basic, utterly foundational tenant of communication, then there truly is no hope for you.

                                    Nobody should be required to understand what is meant by a poorly phrased sentiment. Good communication is about what messages can be received, not about what was intended. It's exactly why professional writers say to avoid idioms. It doesn't matter what is meant. It matters what can be received.

                                    It is wholly on you if you continue to fail to understand this utterly basic lesson of clear communication. One more time just to be clear: I am not against the sentiment of what was said. I am against phrasing it in such flippantly silly ways.

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                                    I'm not the one confused, I understood Sahara just fine. I'm more confused why we're 10 comments deep into, essentially, Sahara's choice to use the word "never."

                                    I'm asking this seriously: how do you handle sarcasm? Or hyperbole?

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                                      Lets just say, they protested and did direct action. Which is more meaningful and has a greater positive effect than some kayfabe like voting.

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                                        History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                                        That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

                                        Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

                                        Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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                                        The entire point of the Biden and Biden/Harris campaign was to make Trump term 1 bipartisan. "No, if you hate immigrants, you should vote for me. Because Democrats fill out the paperwork properly and like bureaucracy, so ICE will work more efficiently and the Wall will be built better, faster and cheaper" - Both Biden and Harris campaigns

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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                                          "the problem is that people don't fully support the Democrats unconditionally. Not that the Democrats only run on being 'Republican Lite' and Republican voters wont support the Lite option when full calorie is on the menu"

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