If You Needed to Pass an Exam to Vote
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I don't know about a fine, but it should be more effort to not vote than to vote. That way the people who are determined not to vote still have an out that doesn't involve violence.
Continue to allow blank-ballot to be a legal vote (as it is today). Nobody has to vote if they don't want, and now if you're trying to do a protest-abstain it actually gets noticed.
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You can (and should) provide fair access to voting without making it mandatory. Most people would probably submit a valid vote anyway, there's a lot of no/low information voters already and refusing to vote, for example to boycott the election or for whatever other reason is also a valid political stance. Plus I'm not a fan of any financial penalties because they're basically an extra civil rights subscription for the wealthy who can afford to pay the fines, while a poor person who doesn't make it to the polling booth gets disproportionately screwed.
I don't have a problem with rich people choosing not to vote.
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We have govs and gobs and gobs of research that show that the best forward for everyone is cooperation. In fact, a lot of that research explicitly shows that the least ethical approaches are often the worst ones by nearly every metric except for “gives a handful of the wrong people way too much power”.
It’s like the four day work week and how we know it’s better not only for employee happiness but also for productivity and talent retention. We know that paying people fairly means that people can actually afford to buy the products we sell. We know that GDP is a bad measure of economic strength and that the most robust economies are those where a lot of smaller amounts change hands frequently. We as a species know all this, and anyone I would consider intelligent would have picked up on these patterns even if they weren’t explicitly told but they ARE being told, over and over again.
We need a new measure of what intelligence is but anything qualitative instead of quantitative is incredibly difficult for most people to grasp and they end worshipping the worst people who have stuff regardless of how they got it. I have the same diploma as my classmates and most of them shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near building design; pointing out my ability to graduate from a program even they could graduate from is not worth that much.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Intelligent people are not omniscient or universally unbiased. Just because they're capable of doing a difficult job well, speak eloquently or excel in IQ tests doesn't mean they won't fall for political fallacies, aren't xenophobic etc..
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The problem there is the administration of the tests, not the tests themselves.
And that is a non-solvable problem.
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And that is a non-solvable problem.
We just need to make sure the voting machines are not racist. Solvable, if we're starting from scratch.
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That's also a trap but I think the quote refers to something else.
Possibly, but I would need more context for a better interpretation than the conclusion I came to.
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We just need to make sure the voting machines are not racist. Solvable, if we're starting from scratch.
The phrase "voting machine" is also a problem.
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Everyone affected by the policy decisions of the land should get to vote. No matter their race, literacy or political belief
A check to make sure they understand exactly what they are voting for seems sensible.
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The phrase "voting machine" is also a problem.
Only when accompanied by "paperless" or "closed source"
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The tests never explicitly directly measured race nor required the voters name. They can design the tests to discriminate all sorts of ways based on the content.
This is true. Whoever decides the questions and determines the correct answer holds a lot of power.
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Except the candidates would all be garbage anyways haha
Candidates being all garbage is exactly what you'd expect when they're just pawns for the people actually running the government (i.e. owners of big corporations).
Since they're shit, they're not popular and can't achieve much on their own. When they're not useful anymore they can be blamed and replaced by the next puppet.
Of course they're also shit, exactly because they're in the pocket of the very wealthy. In the US it seems even impossible to gain any significant position without their blessing.
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Only when accompanied by "paperless" or "closed source"
Nope. It'll never work. Because when I walk into the voting booth, how do I KNOW FOR A VERIFIABLE FACT that this machine here in the booth with me is running the published software?
Computerized voting will always be a mistake.
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rgba(46, 251, 217, 0.72)
You don't get to vote but also you might need to see a doctor. I think you might have ingested way too much colloidal silver. Like this guy
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Except the candidates would all be garbage anyways haha
wrote last edited by [email protected]Hahaha both sides, am I right. Ahahahahh
Shut the he fuck up and actually vote in primaries and we will have better candidates.
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Everyone affected by the policy decisions of the land should get to vote. No matter their race, literacy or political belief
Yes they should. But at the same time completely ignorant people should not. This is too big of a decision to leave up to disinterested and ill informed voters. I don't care if you are left or right. blue or red.
If you don't know the basics of how our government works you do not deserve to have a say. If you do not know the basics of what is happening in the country, then you do not deserve to vote.
ANYONE voting should be informed.
How we test for this? i have no idea. There can not be a simple education requirement or literacy test. There are plenty of uneducated people that are very up to date and informed on current politics. There are plenty of very educated people that don't care about what's going on and just vote by party.
But just because you have the right to an opinion does not mean your ignorant opinion is worth anything.
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Still trying to figure out what happened in the second frame.
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Hahaha both sides, am I right. Ahahahahh
Shut the he fuck up and actually vote in primaries and we will have better candidates.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I vote in all the primaries you shut the fuck up you don't know who you are talking to dude
The options in the primaries usually suck too or the people in power push out the ones the people actually like.
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There'd need to be a massive overhaul of the education system. Most people who do graduate still make stupid-ase, self-sabotaging choices.
Oh for sure, there are a lot of different areas in education that need to be changed. We need to go back to teaching people how to think rather than prepping them to just memorize for the test. That’s not even mentioning the issue that AI can have on the learning processes.
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Brazil had something like that in the early republic days, only literate people could vote. Needless to say, only the robber baron elites kept getting elected, also thanks to the significant amount of fraud that happened. "The election is won during the counting"
Good point, maybe the idea works better in theory than practice. Haha
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The exam:
Q. What is the secret password? A. Make America Great Again
Ahahahahaa xD
