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  • T [email protected]

    It is, but it's also with trillion dollar companies with slave labor, and no I'm not just talking about Apple this time.

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    Now you’re getting it.

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    • O [email protected]

      100€ is about $115. So it's under 100€.

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      You gonna respond to anything else I mentioned or are you just gonna drop a useless pedantry and leave?

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      • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

        "it just works" is also what my partner says, but we can't videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD

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        I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.

        ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
        The superior phone is the one you like to use.
        :::

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        • H [email protected]

          And they do so because there are stupid people buying their shit. Pretty simple.

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          Being tech support for so many people, an app changing the location of a button to the other side is enough for people to call you. Not everyone is tech savy, and not everyone likes change, apple used to be the leader in the smartphone space, you get used to one thing and you can't get out without spending a lot of time, time people just tend to not always have.

          If all android manufacturers pulled the same stunts as apple, I doubt many would switch to a Linux mobile OS (it's just not there yet), normally you would suck it up and deal with it.

          Don't blame the user, blame the manufacturer

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          • O [email protected]

            I don't know the current exchange rate, but I feel like $599 is significantly more than <100€

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            The exchange rate is pretty close to 1:1 these days. It is significantly more.

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            • T [email protected]

              It's true, they just get nerfed into planned obsolesce which causes the company to get sued.

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              They then fixed the issue and are now more transparent about the health of your battery than many Android manufacturers. While "battery gate" had been a problem for a little while around 2017, it hasn’t been in more than 7 years. Old iPhones last a very long time these days and warn you if your battery is degraded to a point where it’ll affect the usability of your iPhone.

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              • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                Didn't see any indication anyone would say that. If they did, that would be delusional.

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                It very much isn’t. At least here in Germany, you can get a brand new Galaxy A06 for 80€ (incl. tax). The phone released end of November '24.

                I can’t speak to the quality of the phone but it does exist.

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                • cyberegg@discuss.tchncs.deC [email protected]

                  but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard.

                  They're standard for premium ranges.

                  The thing is, Apple markets themselves as a brand for wealthy, hipster kind of people, plus iPhones are very easily identifiable. Samsung never branded itself like that and with all the different (and third party) cases you usually don't spot them on first glance.

                  We make fun of the people that buy the branding by making fun of the brand. And I usually don't see people making fun of those who buy refurbished or used iPhones from five years or so, but of those who always have the newest generation.

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                  You perfectly defended my prior comment. Much obliged, nothing to add.

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                  • shady_shiroe@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    Meme should be targeting apple, not it's users. I get why people like there stuff, but spec wise, they overcharge for the cheapest upgrades and at the same time, pat themselves on the back like they do gods work or something.

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                    As an IT worker, Apple products are fine. Not my bag, but fine. Just different issues than PCs and Android. Apple fanboys, however, are just the worst. One of my bosses once wanted me to tear out and rebuild the entire physical network because he had a problem with Safari on one of his Macs.

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                      leaves out the part where their old iphone "just stopped working" after a required update.

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                        Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299

                        Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199

                        Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199

                        The only person being represented by this meme is OP.

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                        My current galaxy cost like $200

                        People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real

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                        • R [email protected]

                          You gonna respond to anything else I mentioned or are you just gonna drop a useless pedantry and leave?

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                          Nothing else you mentioned matters. I provided you a link to a Samsung phone under the specified price, as requested. The rest of your comment was useless pedantry.

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                            Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.

                            That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.

                            The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.

                            As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.

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                            I’m well aware of apple’s strategy and I myself am typing this on an iPhone 13 mini I bought refurbished.

                            However, for public perception of a brand as being expensive, used/refurbished models don’t really count. The cheapest phone Apple currently sells new (16e) is about 600€; 700€ directly from Apple. That’s not a cheap phone.
                            Samsung, as one of the most expensive android brands, still sells a variety of phones well below that, as low as 80€ for a brand new phone.

                            That obviously skews the perception towards Samsung being more affordable than Apple. Which they are. I cannot possibly get a new iPhone at 80€ or even a decent refurbished one.

                            But of course that still doesn’t mean iPhones are overpriced. You usually get what you pay for and similar devices by other manufacturers are usually just as expensive.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              iPhone batteries don’t blow up like pixels.

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                              I have a Nexus 5 still on its original battery. Idk how.

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                                The exchange rate is pretty close to 1:1 these days. It is significantly more.

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                                I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.

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                                  I honestly don't know why smartphones got so powerful and expensive, and why everyone just rolled with it. No one iPhone user needs the hardware that the latest iPhone provides, and I'm sure as hell Apple doesn't even let you push that hardware to its limits. The average Joe just uses an instant messenger app and maybe a few social media apps, and that's it. Who in the world actually needs hardware so powerful and compact on a phone that it is on the verge of experiencing quantum tunneling?

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                                  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                    I don't think I've paid more than that for a pixel, and I have bought a 256 GB Pixel before. I feel like that $600 apple phone has 32 GB storage or something absurd

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                                    128gb for the $599 model.

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                                      I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.

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                                      Oh it’s definitely not a budget option. It’s Apple’s idea of budget.

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                                        I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.

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                                        I was just backing you up with an approximate exchange rate.

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          It very much isn’t. At least here in Germany, you can get a brand new Galaxy A06 for 80€ (incl. tax). The phone released end of November '24.

                                          I can’t speak to the quality of the phone but it does exist.

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                                          Okay. I was accused of making this claim but I don't keep up with Samsung at all. Firstly, I found their product quality insanely abysmal. Secondly, their prices seem to have gone up. Thirdly, the bloatware they put on their phones could never be worth it at any price.

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