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  • T [email protected]

    Oh I'm aware. Apple set the trend just like they did with the pricing of non Apple devices.

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    We're really not gonna devolve into "Apple is to blame for everything other manufacturers do" argument are we? These companies blow - but blaming one to excuse the others is nutty.

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      We're really not gonna devolve into "Apple is to blame for everything other manufacturers do" argument are we? These companies blow - but blaming one to excuse the others is nutty.

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      You're right. Apple charging $1000 dollars for a device had no bearing on capitalism's way of setting prices based on what consumers are willing to pay... Look up ultrabooks.

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        "it just works" is also what my partner says, but we can't videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD

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        • cyberegg@discuss.tchncs.deC [email protected]

          The Samsung A06 was launched (in Germany) in May (2025) and you can get it for ~80€.

          Anyway, we're not talking about being angry with Apple, we're talking about why Apple is perceived more expensive/less affordable than Android. The reason: they don't have cheap/inexpensive phones (or anything inexpensive in any category). Apple is marketed as a premium brand, has premium prices, and we're making fun of that.

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          I did a quick search - a nice option it seems.

          That's fair - but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard. What Apple is lacking is budget phones like Samsung. Less features, less performant hardware, less cost. What I'm getting at is that Samsung has many more "premium" options compared to Apple - yet because Apple's options are only "premium" they're considered the phone for rich assholes with too much money, so maybe we should just be making fun of those people instead, regardless of their phone.

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            You're right. Apple charging $1000 dollars for a device had no bearing on capitalism's way of setting prices based on what consumers are willing to pay... Look up ultrabooks.

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            Sounds like your issue is with capitalism. Fair.

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              Sounds like your issue is with capitalism. Fair.

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              It is, but it's also with trillion dollar companies with slave labor, and no I'm not just talking about Apple this time.

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                $111 and released 2 years ago. But still, closer than I thought. Amazon 3rd party seller is kinda cheating though.

                But my question remains, are we upset with Apple because they haven't provided a low budget option? There are so many good reasons to be angry with companies; "Their products are out of my price range" is like the lamest one.

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                100€ is about $115. So it's under 100€.

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                • R [email protected]

                  I did a quick search - a nice option it seems.

                  That's fair - but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard. What Apple is lacking is budget phones like Samsung. Less features, less performant hardware, less cost. What I'm getting at is that Samsung has many more "premium" options compared to Apple - yet because Apple's options are only "premium" they're considered the phone for rich assholes with too much money, so maybe we should just be making fun of those people instead, regardless of their phone.

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                  but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard.

                  They're standard for premium ranges.

                  The thing is, Apple markets themselves as a brand for wealthy, hipster kind of people, plus iPhones are very easily identifiable. Samsung never branded itself like that and with all the different (and third party) cases you usually don't spot them on first glance.

                  We make fun of the people that buy the branding by making fun of the brand. And I usually don't see people making fun of those who buy refurbished or used iPhones from five years or so, but of those who always have the newest generation.

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                    We're really not gonna devolve into "Apple is to blame for everything other manufacturers do" argument are we? These companies blow - but blaming one to excuse the others is nutty.

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                    Name a hated trend in phones which apple didn't do first

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                    • T [email protected]

                      It is, but it's also with trillion dollar companies with slave labor, and no I'm not just talking about Apple this time.

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                      Now you’re getting it.

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                      • O [email protected]

                        100€ is about $115. So it's under 100€.

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                        You gonna respond to anything else I mentioned or are you just gonna drop a useless pedantry and leave?

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                        • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                          "it just works" is also what my partner says, but we can't videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD

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                          I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.

                          ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                          The superior phone is the one you like to use.
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                            And they do so because there are stupid people buying their shit. Pretty simple.

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                            Being tech support for so many people, an app changing the location of a button to the other side is enough for people to call you. Not everyone is tech savy, and not everyone likes change, apple used to be the leader in the smartphone space, you get used to one thing and you can't get out without spending a lot of time, time people just tend to not always have.

                            If all android manufacturers pulled the same stunts as apple, I doubt many would switch to a Linux mobile OS (it's just not there yet), normally you would suck it up and deal with it.

                            Don't blame the user, blame the manufacturer

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                              I don't know the current exchange rate, but I feel like $599 is significantly more than <100€

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                              The exchange rate is pretty close to 1:1 these days. It is significantly more.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                It's true, they just get nerfed into planned obsolesce which causes the company to get sued.

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                                They then fixed the issue and are now more transparent about the health of your battery than many Android manufacturers. While "battery gate" had been a problem for a little while around 2017, it hasn’t been in more than 7 years. Old iPhones last a very long time these days and warn you if your battery is degraded to a point where it’ll affect the usability of your iPhone.

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                                • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  Didn't see any indication anyone would say that. If they did, that would be delusional.

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                                  It very much isn’t. At least here in Germany, you can get a brand new Galaxy A06 for 80€ (incl. tax). The phone released end of November '24.

                                  I can’t speak to the quality of the phone but it does exist.

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                                  • cyberegg@discuss.tchncs.deC [email protected]

                                    but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard.

                                    They're standard for premium ranges.

                                    The thing is, Apple markets themselves as a brand for wealthy, hipster kind of people, plus iPhones are very easily identifiable. Samsung never branded itself like that and with all the different (and third party) cases you usually don't spot them on first glance.

                                    We make fun of the people that buy the branding by making fun of the brand. And I usually don't see people making fun of those who buy refurbished or used iPhones from five years or so, but of those who always have the newest generation.

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                                    You perfectly defended my prior comment. Much obliged, nothing to add.

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                                    • shady_shiroe@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      Meme should be targeting apple, not it's users. I get why people like there stuff, but spec wise, they overcharge for the cheapest upgrades and at the same time, pat themselves on the back like they do gods work or something.

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                                      As an IT worker, Apple products are fine. Not my bag, but fine. Just different issues than PCs and Android. Apple fanboys, however, are just the worst. One of my bosses once wanted me to tear out and rebuild the entire physical network because he had a problem with Safari on one of his Macs.

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                                        leaves out the part where their old iphone "just stopped working" after a required update.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299

                                          Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199

                                          Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199

                                          The only person being represented by this meme is OP.

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                                          My current galaxy cost like $200

                                          People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real

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