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Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.
That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.
The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.
As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.
I’m well aware of apple’s strategy and I myself am typing this on an iPhone 13 mini I bought refurbished.
However, for public perception of a brand as being expensive, used/refurbished models don’t really count. The cheapest phone Apple currently sells new (16e) is about 600€; 700€ directly from Apple. That’s not a cheap phone.
Samsung, as one of the most expensive android brands, still sells a variety of phones well below that, as low as 80€ for a brand new phone.That obviously skews the perception towards Samsung being more affordable than Apple. Which they are. I cannot possibly get a new iPhone at 80€ or even a decent refurbished one.
But of course that still doesn’t mean iPhones are overpriced. You usually get what you pay for and similar devices by other manufacturers are usually just as expensive.
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iPhone batteries don’t blow up like pixels.
I have a Nexus 5 still on its original battery. Idk how.
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The exchange rate is pretty close to 1:1 these days. It is significantly more.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.
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I honestly don't know why smartphones got so powerful and expensive, and why everyone just rolled with it. No one iPhone user needs the hardware that the latest iPhone provides, and I'm sure as hell Apple doesn't even let you push that hardware to its limits. The average Joe just uses an instant messenger app and maybe a few social media apps, and that's it. Who in the world actually needs hardware so powerful and compact on a phone that it is on the verge of experiencing quantum tunneling?
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I don't think I've paid more than that for a pixel, and I have bought a 256 GB Pixel before. I feel like that $600 apple phone has 32 GB storage or something absurd
128gb for the $599 model.
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I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Oh it’s definitely not a budget option. It’s Apple’s idea of budget.
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I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.
I was just backing you up with an approximate exchange rate.
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It very much isn’t. At least here in Germany, you can get a brand new Galaxy A06 for 80€ (incl. tax). The phone released end of November '24.
I can’t speak to the quality of the phone but it does exist.
Okay. I was accused of making this claim but I don't keep up with Samsung at all. Firstly, I found their product quality insanely abysmal. Secondly, their prices seem to have gone up. Thirdly, the bloatware they put on their phones could never be worth it at any price.
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I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
The superior phone is the one you like to use.
:::I agree with your spoiler. But when you look at how Apple works, with there monopoly with their app store and how old phones get mediocre updates while newer phones lack significant improvements, while they do their best to make it exclusive (for example, even though usb C is forced on to them, they have their own version. But also removing the aux plus which sadly is copied by other brands). Samsung does the same, as they joined the fight against right to repair so they are just as evil as Apple imo. Many brands are either from mega corps and push apps onto you and love to exploit their users, or are Chinese brands stealing away customers with too cheap prices while their next line is just as bad as the competition while they hoard your data. It's hard to find a decent brand these days. It's just an ocean of shit companies.
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Well yeah, that's pretty obviously the point of this post
The main post, yes. Not the person at the root of this thread.
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Okay. I was accused of making this claim but I don't keep up with Samsung at all. Firstly, I found their product quality insanely abysmal. Secondly, their prices seem to have gone up. Thirdly, the bloatware they put on their phones could never be worth it at any price.
Yea, I wouldn’t personally get a Samsung, even if I was in the market for a cheap Android…
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128gb for the $599 model.
or for 559 you can get a 256 GB pixel
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Nothing else you mentioned matters. I provided you a link to a Samsung phone under the specified price, as requested. The rest of your comment was useless pedantry.
Not sure you know what pedantry means but that’s alright.
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Oh wow! Another super inspired meme hating on a subset of users’ personal preferences! So original, thank you! Haha, apple user and phones bad!
Big “I use arch btw” energy.
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This logic is outdated. The top of the line iPhones are no more (and sometimes a bit less) than comparable Android flagships.
Their base models come in around high-midrange Android, true. But some of the specs (CPU/camera) still beat out Android phones at their price range. Heck on CPU they often beat more expensive Android phones.
I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of Apple it's just like, it's not just them. I've had something like 9 Android phones and 6 iPhones. Really in the end they aren't that different day-to-day.
Sweet Jesus, why do you buy so many phones?
I bought the first iPhone the week it came out, and I'm at 2 iPhone's, 4 android phones.
You must be the target audience for these companies.
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Oh wow! Another super inspired meme hating on a subset of users’ personal preferences! So original, thank you! Haha, apple user and phones bad!
Big “I use arch btw” energy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I actually think using something because "it just works" is a braindead take. Most things just work, that's literally the bare minimum. Plus most things that "just work" in my experience don't in fact just work.
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Sweet Jesus, why do you buy so many phones?
I bought the first iPhone the week it came out, and I'm at 2 iPhone's, 4 android phones.
You must be the target audience for these companies.
I'm a techie guy. I like tech. I run my own servers at home. I run a Lemmy instance.
Trust me I am very aware I absolutely do not NEED a new phone. But if I can get a good deal on a new one and recoup a significant amount by trading/selling the old - I do (after a year or so, usually)
It's something that interests me. Some people collect knick-knacks and probably spend more than I do on consumer electronics.
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I honestly don't know why smartphones got so powerful and expensive, and why everyone just rolled with it. No one iPhone user needs the hardware that the latest iPhone provides, and I'm sure as hell Apple doesn't even let you push that hardware to its limits. The average Joe just uses an instant messenger app and maybe a few social media apps, and that's it. Who in the world actually needs hardware so powerful and compact on a phone that it is on the verge of experiencing quantum tunneling?
Well, more power efficiency is always better and chips are the opposite of cars. The faster the chip can finish doing its calculations and go back to sleep, the less power it will end up using.
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2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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leaves out the part where their old iphone "just stopped working" after a required update.
Mine is 5 years old. Doing just fine.
