Voting
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I'd rather live under fascism than to vote democrat
That's you.
TIL you can commit a genocide without crossing the 'fascism' line
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Just for the sake of discussion, I think there's a real argument to be made that reversing 25% is actually worse than doing nothing, because it makes people complacent. "Controlled opposition", if you will.
I'm not saying that's necessarily always the case, there are obviously tangible benefits to reducing some of the damage. But if it comes with allowing even more damage to be done later, because the changes are superficial and don't address the ways in which the right extremists can manipulate the political system, then people might be fooled into thinking the system still works and the long run consequences would be even more severe than if they realised it doesn't.
And if you fully realise that the political system doesn't work then I don't think it entirely makes sense to get on someone's case about voting or not. Not that they shouldn't, but there are much bigger issues.
The 25% nonsense is purely vibes based anyway. They don't reverse anything. Even liberals recognize this with their 'ratchet' memes
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That is LITERALLY how it works in a two party system, ffs... for being smart enough to care about the environment, that is purely brainless on the politics...
wrote last edited by [email protected]When a parent tells a child 'the way it works' is that you only get to choose whether you want to brush your teeth before or after the last cartoon...
It's only 'the way it works' in the context of the parent being in charge and deciding what they want to do unilaterally. It's not actually how the world works.
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Ouch, two reasons not to vote for Trump, IMO...
As far as I'm concerned they're there the same reason; ethnonationalism is a coherent ideology. But explaining that to them is not going to get me anywhere.
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Wait, that's dumb. If all "good" people refused to tell their political leanings, and you're not going to meet someone who will not disclose it, you're kinda' just setting up a lonely life with those assinine rules...
You can sus people out other ways. The point is just to not let chameleons say whatever you said because they're horny.
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Narrator: Neither of them voted.
Too soon… or too late time is a funny thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oops that's my bad, I'm sorry.
So, I agree with you that we need to do more, especially now, but that also includes voting too. Voting is bare minimum, if people can't vote, I can't see them doing much else.
If they can do other more impactful things without voting then I'm all for it, but voting itself does not take away from doing more.
Like for example, New Yorkers voting for Mamdani in this upcoming election is great, especially because it shows the nation that as a whole we can swing the total opposite direction.
No worries, it happens.
Yeah, I basically agree with your first paragraph, but the point I was trying to make is that I do see people doing much else. I do know people who reject voting but spend a lot of time and energy doing organising and activism. Whether or not that applies to the other poster on this thread, I feel it's better not to overly shame people for not having voted. Life sucks and people rationalise the dumb stuff they do in all sorts of crazy ways. I'd prefer to talk about something more positive.
Mamdani seems cool. It's nice to see someone win on a straight affordability campaign without openly throwing marginalised people under the bus. Of course, it's NY. But it shows it's something we could unite around.
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A friend of mine went on a date Sunday night. For some reason they started talking politics. This bitch ass cry baby mommas boy walks OUT on the date, WITHOUT paying for his drinks/food. Luckily my friend only had to pay for her stuff. I'll give you one guess what his political leanings were. These maga morons got no balls
Morons
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Genuine
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Man you'd think. Some ppl just use politics to hide shitty behavior. Polis don't mean shit. See how friendly and helpful they are to strangers. Ppl thank can't offer anything.
It's not the end-all-be-all for filtering out assholes, but nobody was suggesting it was. Most of the remaining filters are done before or during dates
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You don't have a solution if your solution starts with "if everyone would just". That's a hope or a fantasy. People won't just.
The solution starts with you, Janet.
You need to stop pushing the idea that it doesn't matter who you vote for and the poisonous idea that all politicians are equally corrupt. There are some very dangerous groups who have brainwashed you into pushing the very attitude that lets them get away with slowly eroding democracy.
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just don't date white people
play the odds
Racism isn't the answer. That's just literally perpetuating problems.
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As far as I'm concerned they're there the same reason; ethnonationalism is a coherent ideology. But explaining that to them is not going to get me anywhere.
Coherent is not equivalent to morally correct.
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When a parent tells a child 'the way it works' is that you only get to choose whether you want to brush your teeth before or after the last cartoon...
It's only 'the way it works' in the context of the parent being in charge and deciding what they want to do unilaterally. It's not actually how the world works.
We're talking about politics that has many laws and regulations written that are enforced. Not your mom trying to instill good hygene...
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The solution starts with you, Janet.
You need to stop pushing the idea that it doesn't matter who you vote for and the poisonous idea that all politicians are equally corrupt. There are some very dangerous groups who have brainwashed you into pushing the very attitude that lets them get away with slowly eroding democracy.
I have never once pushed for people to not vote or that it doesn't matter who you vote for. I don't know what about this conversation made you think that.
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You can sus people out other ways. The point is just to not let chameleons say whatever you said because they're horny.
That's a much different take than, "don't tell people your leanings and don't accept others that won't tell you theirs".
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Too soon… or too late time is a funny thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Too late seems pretty apt in this case!
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Cool story bud but that's not how shit works. Go play your reactionary, blame-shifting games elsewhere.
Edit: lol please keep responding you braindead Muppets, it lets me know who to block.
That is how it works. Don't break an arm jerking yourself off, there, hero.
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What if they were in a state where their vote wouldn't have even remotely changed the electoral vote outcome? It's a strawman blame game you're playing to feel smug about yourself in a generalized approach.
You don't know anyone's personal situation yet you have no qualm placing blame for a worldwide issue on a single individual.
Good for you. You shamed someone for not solving the worlds climate issues with a single fucking vote that may not have even made any difference at all.
Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.
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Theres a fire in my kitchen, but the fire extinguisher is only going to stop like 25% of the damage, so I'm committed to not stopping the fire.
To be clear, I also don't support the fire. But the fire extinguisher is:
- filled with chemicals
- makes a huge mess
- costs money to recharge
- may cause other damage from overspray
So the best thing for me and my kitchen is to do nothing until they make a "fix my kitchen" spray.
When you need the fire department but are only allowed to die trying to fight the out of control blaze or die throwing gas on it.
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Ouch, two reasons not to vote for Trump, IMO...
Genocide the natives and take their land? It does sound very American to be fair.
