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That'll pay for itself in 10 years give or take
But that's assuming your bill is that high every month when really in winter it's probably much less of a difference. But I don't know where you live to be fair.
Winter bill is usually $50-60, but gas fuels the heater. I will know the difference after this winter
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During the day go out
During night use an air conditioned sleep pod (cheaper than cooling the whole home)
Air conditioned sleep pod
You mean those eggy things, one uses to go to sleep forever and an alien plant clone of you takes over your life?
I would love to make the switch
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I'm using a swamp cooler. Not ideal, but my power bill stays lower.
Must be nice living in a climate dry enough for those to work.
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My understanding is that it's not bad when done correctly, but if they screw up the install it can be a nightmare and a huge safety issue. They screw up the mixture and now you've got extremely hard to remove foam stuck to everything that's going to off gas dangerous chemicals for 20 years. It can go bad enough to completely condemn the home.
IIRC it can also cause the structure to rot if they get the vapor barrier details wrong.
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That'll pay for itself in 10 years give or take
But that's assuming your bill is that high every month when really in winter it's probably much less of a difference. But I don't know where you live to be fair.
Also depends on what type of heat you use
I have a heat pump, so my air conditioner is my heater, heat pumps are basically just an AC running in reverse.
In general, my wife and I don't mind it being cold, we're willing to let the temperature in our house get down to about the mid-low 50s (F, obviously) in the winter, so we do end up using a lot less electricity in the winter. But if we tried to keep our house at a warmer temperature that most people would find comfortable, it would probably be about the same.
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That'll pay for itself in 10 years give or take
But that's assuming your bill is that high every month when really in winter it's probably much less of a difference. But I don't know where you live to be fair.
12.5 years.
TBF I paid even more to have my system replaced. And I think it’s definitely worth it. But will I live here long enough for it to pay for itself? I don’t know.
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Also depends on what type of heat you use
I have a heat pump, so my air conditioner is my heater, heat pumps are basically just an AC running in reverse.
In general, my wife and I don't mind it being cold, we're willing to let the temperature in our house get down to about the mid-low 50s (F, obviously) in the winter, so we do end up using a lot less electricity in the winter. But if we tried to keep our house at a warmer temperature that most people would find comfortable, it would probably be about the same.
Just to chime in, here in Israel I've never seen an air conditioner without a heating mode. "Heat pump" isn't ever talked about because it's a bog-standard feature of every air conditioner on the market. It's just "putting the AC in heat mode".
Our summers are brutal (especially in recent years, fml with climate change) but winters aren't nearly as cold as European or American, so we don't really have much call for a whole dedicated heating system. I'm guessing this is why ACs just add heating since it barely affects manufacturing but is a massive selling point (or glaring omission) for the roughly 100% of houses that don't have other heating solutions.
It's pretty ironic that we ended up with the most efficient heating solution being ubiquitous specifically because we barely need heating.
Of course, a ton of people (including my mom) still choose to use electric space heaters in the winter. I prefer AC but I can't deny that the air feels different so it's a valid preference, if somewhat wasteful. Not as bad as gas or fire though.
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During the day go out
During night use an air conditioned sleep pod (cheaper than cooling the whole home)
Go out where? It's too hot outside
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Also depends on what type of heat you use
I have a heat pump, so my air conditioner is my heater, heat pumps are basically just an AC running in reverse.
In general, my wife and I don't mind it being cold, we're willing to let the temperature in our house get down to about the mid-low 50s (F, obviously) in the winter, so we do end up using a lot less electricity in the winter. But if we tried to keep our house at a warmer temperature that most people would find comfortable, it would probably be about the same.
Yeah I live in Florida. Our winters it might get close to freezing, some days. Maybe a little under overnight.
I have a screened in porch and it's open all day along with the windows in winter, A/C set to fan only. Close the porch/windows at night but no heat. It's pretty cold in the morning but I'll take the $50 electric bill lol
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Must be nice living in a climate dry enough for those to work.
They have a limit. So like it's 110° outside, the best my swamp cooler can do is 90° inside.
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Air conditioned sleep pod
You mean those eggy things, one uses to go to sleep forever and an alien plant clone of you takes over your life?
I would love to make the switch
Imagining the body snatcher coming back to the eggy pod and waking us up... "screeeech this sucks, take your life back, too much stresssssss" as they shove us out and climb into the eggy pod.
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An example: old AC running 24/7 keeping the house around 80 degrees. Electricity bills between $250-300 per month.
System replacement was ~$15k. System runs regularly now and monthly electricity bill is about $150-200 and keeps the house at 75.
So it'd take 25 years to have enough savings on the power bill (saving $100 a month for 6 months of summer)
Assuming the power company never raised rates in the coming years.
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This is why you get a whole house fan… if you are able to have one installed.
I miss my attic fan I had in the previous house. The amount of airflow from that thing was insane.
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During the day go out
During night use an air conditioned sleep pod (cheaper than cooling the whole home)
wrote last edited by [email protected]Personally, I can't do this, have pets.
Also, my heat advisories are so bad during the summer, they tell us to NOT go outside unless we have to.
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Air conditioned sleep pod
You mean those eggy things, one uses to go to sleep forever and an alien plant clone of you takes over your life?
I would love to make the switch
Is this the plot of the sims
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Must be nice living in a climate dry enough for those to work.
Normally it's dry here but the humidity has been 60-80%, which doesn't do much for swamp cooling at the moment. I'm hoping things dry out.
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IIRC it can also cause the structure to rot if they get the vapor barrier details wrong.
My understanding is that's true of basically all insulation. Old structures were built with the assumption that they'd breath, and insulation wasn't as important since they'd be heated by fireplace in the winter (either directly or using the fire to heat water for radiators) and air conditioning wasn't a thing yet.
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So it'd take 25 years to have enough savings on the power bill (saving $100 a month for 6 months of summer)
Assuming the power company never raised rates in the coming years.
Consider that the other option is having no AC in Texas though.
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My experience is slightly different:
me listening to my air conditioner run non-stop
Goddamn fucking condensation shorted the fan controller, again. Hijo de PUTA
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Just to chime in, here in Israel I've never seen an air conditioner without a heating mode. "Heat pump" isn't ever talked about because it's a bog-standard feature of every air conditioner on the market. It's just "putting the AC in heat mode".
Our summers are brutal (especially in recent years, fml with climate change) but winters aren't nearly as cold as European or American, so we don't really have much call for a whole dedicated heating system. I'm guessing this is why ACs just add heating since it barely affects manufacturing but is a massive selling point (or glaring omission) for the roughly 100% of houses that don't have other heating solutions.
It's pretty ironic that we ended up with the most efficient heating solution being ubiquitous specifically because we barely need heating.
Of course, a ton of people (including my mom) still choose to use electric space heaters in the winter. I prefer AC but I can't deny that the air feels different so it's a valid preference, if somewhat wasteful. Not as bad as gas or fire though.
wrote last edited by [email protected]A Heat Pump isn't just a "bog-standard" feature especially if it's older than 10 years old.
There are many ways Central Air can heat the air in a home. A Heat Pump is only one of them.
