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    Also depends on what type of heat you use

    I have a heat pump, so my air conditioner is my heater, heat pumps are basically just an AC running in reverse.

    In general, my wife and I don't mind it being cold, we're willing to let the temperature in our house get down to about the mid-low 50s (F, obviously) in the winter, so we do end up using a lot less electricity in the winter. But if we tried to keep our house at a warmer temperature that most people would find comfortable, it would probably be about the same.

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    Yeah I live in Florida. Our winters it might get close to freezing, some days. Maybe a little under overnight.

    I have a screened in porch and it's open all day along with the windows in winter, A/C set to fan only. Close the porch/windows at night but no heat. It's pretty cold in the morning but I'll take the $50 electric bill lol

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      Must be nice living in a climate dry enough for those to work.

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      They have a limit. So like it's 110° outside, the best my swamp cooler can do is 90° inside.

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

        Air conditioned sleep pod

        You mean those eggy things, one uses to go to sleep forever and an alien plant clone of you takes over your life?

        I would love to make the switch

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        Imagining the body snatcher coming back to the eggy pod and waking us up... "screeeech this sucks, take your life back, too much stresssssss" as they shove us out and climb into the eggy pod.

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        • fenririii@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

          An example: old AC running 24/7 keeping the house around 80 degrees. Electricity bills between $250-300 per month.

          System replacement was ~$15k. System runs regularly now and monthly electricity bill is about $150-200 and keeps the house at 75.

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          So it'd take 25 years to have enough savings on the power bill (saving $100 a month for 6 months of summer)

          Assuming the power company never raised rates in the coming years.

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          • hopesdead@startrek.websiteH [email protected]

            This is why you get a whole house fan… if you are able to have one installed.

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            I miss my attic fan I had in the previous house. The amount of airflow from that thing was insane.

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              During the day go out

              During night use an air conditioned sleep pod (cheaper than cooling the whole home)

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              Personally, I can't do this, have pets.

              Also, my heat advisories are so bad during the summer, they tell us to NOT go outside unless we have to.

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              • kamenlady@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                Air conditioned sleep pod

                You mean those eggy things, one uses to go to sleep forever and an alien plant clone of you takes over your life?

                I would love to make the switch

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                Is this the plot of the sims

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                  Must be nice living in a climate dry enough for those to work.

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                  Normally it's dry here but the humidity has been 60-80%, which doesn't do much for swamp cooling at the moment. I'm hoping things dry out.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    IIRC it can also cause the structure to rot if they get the vapor barrier details wrong.

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                    My understanding is that's true of basically all insulation. Old structures were built with the assumption that they'd breath, and insulation wasn't as important since they'd be heated by fireplace in the winter (either directly or using the fire to heat water for radiators) and air conditioning wasn't a thing yet.

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                      So it'd take 25 years to have enough savings on the power bill (saving $100 a month for 6 months of summer)

                      Assuming the power company never raised rates in the coming years.

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                      Consider that the other option is having no AC in Texas though.

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                        My experience is slightly different:

                        me listening to my air conditioner run non-stop

                        Goddamn fucking condensation shorted the fan controller, again. Hijo de PUTA

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                          Just to chime in, here in Israel I've never seen an air conditioner without a heating mode. "Heat pump" isn't ever talked about because it's a bog-standard feature of every air conditioner on the market. It's just "putting the AC in heat mode".

                          Our summers are brutal (especially in recent years, fml with climate change) but winters aren't nearly as cold as European or American, so we don't really have much call for a whole dedicated heating system. I'm guessing this is why ACs just add heating since it barely affects manufacturing but is a massive selling point (or glaring omission) for the roughly 100% of houses that don't have other heating solutions.

                          It's pretty ironic that we ended up with the most efficient heating solution being ubiquitous specifically because we barely need heating.

                          Of course, a ton of people (including my mom) still choose to use electric space heaters in the winter. I prefer AC but I can't deny that the air feels different so it's a valid preference, if somewhat wasteful. Not as bad as gas or fire though.

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                          A Heat Pump isn't just a "bog-standard" feature especially if it's older than 10 years old.

                          There are many ways Central Air can heat the air in a home. A Heat Pump is only one of them.

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                            They have a limit. So like it's 110° outside, the best my swamp cooler can do is 90° inside.

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                            That is the best most Air Conditioners will do as well???

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                              Bay Area checking in. We have had a mild summer somehow. I feel bad for the rest of you tho.

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                                I heard spray insulation voids your homeowners insurance. Is that still true?

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                                Haven't heard that. I can say this, we have a Habitat for Humanity home and the insulation, structure, windows, etc. are well above code. They don't play. The mission is to put people in homes they can afford, from the day you sign the mortgage, into the future.

                                Yeah, the faucets, doorknobs, lighting, carpet, linoleum, all that is shit. But again, they don't fuck around with structure (hurricane zone here) or insulation. Most energy efficient place I've ever lived.

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                                  Haven't heard that. I can say this, we have a Habitat for Humanity home and the insulation, structure, windows, etc. are well above code. They don't play. The mission is to put people in homes they can afford, from the day you sign the mortgage, into the future.

                                  Yeah, the faucets, doorknobs, lighting, carpet, linoleum, all that is shit. But again, they don't fuck around with structure (hurricane zone here) or insulation. Most energy efficient place I've ever lived.

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                                  How you qualify for one of those homes?

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                                    I used to live in a small apartment building without individual mailboxes so we could just see each other's power bills. The first time they arrived, I was dumbfounded by how much everyone else paid. I'm not gonna give exact numbers because it means nothing unless you live in the same country and state but it's enough to say their bills was literally 10 to 15 times what mine was. It was a very warm place so I just assumed they ran the AC all the time until we went through a particularly hot summer and I decided to just eat the bill and ran it 24/7 as well. My bill was a little over 3 times the usual amount. WHAT THE HELL WAS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE BUILDING DOING?!

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                                      I used to live in a small apartment building without individual mailboxes so we could just see each other's power bills. The first time they arrived, I was dumbfounded by how much everyone else paid. I'm not gonna give exact numbers because it means nothing unless you live in the same country and state but it's enough to say their bills was literally 10 to 15 times what mine was. It was a very warm place so I just assumed they ran the AC all the time until we went through a particularly hot summer and I decided to just eat the bill and ran it 24/7 as well. My bill was a little over 3 times the usual amount. WHAT THE HELL WAS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE BUILDING DOING?!

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                                      Growing weed.

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                                        And Jesus said: "Don't share thy bread nor thy fish, for it is socialism, and it is wrong."

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          A Heat Pump isn't just a "bog-standard" feature especially if it's older than 10 years old.

                                          There are many ways Central Air can heat the air in a home. A Heat Pump is only one of them.

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                                          Interesting, it never occurred to me that that might be the case. What other methods are there (besides the obvious resistive heating), and is there some way to check what method my AC uses?

                                          I still would assume all new AC units here function as heat pumps, isn't it just the cheapest solution to manufacture? Keep in mind that it never goes below freezing so there's no need to deal with frost and ice.

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