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    Again, you cannot assume that they chose to call it unfair simply as a self-defense mechanism. Imagine someone accused your family of being murderers, then said the only reason you would be upset by that is if you really did have murderous proclivities and felt self-conscious about it.

    And frankly, even if that was their entire motivation for calling it unfair in the first place, it does not mean they are wrong.

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    This analogy is specifically from the perspective of crewmates. It is wrong for crewmates to die, actually, because this brings your team closer to defeat.
    I think you might also think that I view the crewmates as women?

    No, I didn't think you were making the crewmates just women. My point was, it's not morally wrong for the imposters to kill in the game, because unlike real life, the sides are diametrically opposed and all players want their opponents to earnestly try to win. Crewmates don't want imposters to just let them do tasks because then there would be no game. In that sense, killing crewmates is cooperating by making it a fun challenge for everyone. By the same token, it's not morally wrong for crewmates to make accusations against people in meetings or otherwise treat them suspiciously, it's how everyone wants others to play. But the moral weight to accusations in real life means it's not ok to make them casually. There is a burden of proof to overcome.

    If the game were programmed such that red crewmates were exclusively the ones chosen to be imposters, regardless of how this might damage the video game's fun, don't you think that being near a red crew member would set off some alarm bells? Wouldn't you think of green crew members as more safe?

    I don't know where you are going with this. I guess my level of caution would depend on frequency of imposters. If half of red crewmates were imposters, sure. If it's 1 in 1000, I wouldn't be alarmed. But that's not representative of real life either. Neither predators nor victims of sexual crimes are exclusive to any group. We could talk about statistics but this is about perception of threat and fear. They're only very loosely tied to reality, especially when it comes to small samples like individual encounters with strangers.

  • v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV
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    I like this analogy so much and it's so on-point. Thanks writing this up

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    Huh? This literally what the meme is about and you are having a discussion in it's comment section beneath?

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    Men looking for women as romantic partners is like searching for potable water in a desert.

    When looking for men as romantic partners is like searching for potable water in a SWAMP.

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    We're finally approaching some twisted semblance of equality via men becoming afraid of women in return ._.

    Men who took the lesson to heart:
    Ladies don't want to talk to you.
    They don't want you to approach them.
    They don't want you to initiate social interaction.
    Men need to be less visible, less audible, overall less perceptible, because this coincides with them being less obnoxious.

    Instead of teaching them to act in less obnoxious ways, society taught them to act less--period.

    And so, I now see unironic posts showing up on social media of women asking each other (paraphrased),
    "Why don't men ever talk to me anymore?"
    "Why don't men ever approach me anymore?"
    "Even when I see men in public, they never even acknowledge me. Why are they ignoring me? What is going on?"

    A lot of folks heard the pleas of women wishing men would just leave them alone. And a fair proportion of the men acquiesced.

    I mean, yeah, SOME didn't, and became even more obnoxious, but the chronically unfuckable bootlicking simps of the fascist grift are more miserable now than they've ever been; The few that "seem" "successful" are just poster children of survivorship bias, pied pipers leading the naive and highly suggestible to self-inflicted ruin.

    I have divested myself of this bizarre tragedy of errors. Humans are humans. I treat humans like humans. If other people project weird freaky intentions upon me while I'm JUST trying to mind my own gods damned business existing within line of sight and vague proximity, that's THEIR skill issue. AT LEAST nonbinary asexual persons never get weird at me like the ones vested in all the maladaptive notions and festooned in toxic stereotypes... and it's refreshing. Good riddance to all the outdated reproductive caste dynamics. Good riddance to the gilded cage of having to drag-perform whatever the fuck I was assigned at birth.

  • lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL
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    I have friends that get read as women who can't do stuff that would be completely normal for any cis male (like going to a festival alone) because there is a real possibility of them being assaulted, murdered or at the very least getting harassed. And even if it is only one in a hundred men that would do such things it doesn't matter if the other 99 do nothing to stop it.

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    Not overly much - society has "dysfunctioned" along perfectly well for millennia. It will continue to be dysfunctional for many more millennia.

    Better to enjoy your life and spite that dysfunction than to live under its heel.

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    You're giving too much credit to bears. They can chomp your face just because they feelt like it, or out of pure curiosity, and won't even notice you struggling to fight them off. Check some stories of zookepers and circus workers killed by them, you'll find that wild animals are completely unpredictable.

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    Nah, this is about predators, not aliens.

  • pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.comP
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    Oh yes, based on that logic, I got cheated, so every women is a whore.

  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC
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    Because with the possible exception of the bi's, you're all inherently unqualified for the job of setting up a heterosexual relationship. Why don't you ask straight men to pick out sweaters? Because we're bad at it at an anatomical level.

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    Honestly so happy I’m married, I’m sorry for all of y’all. Dystopian times.

    But hey to add my two cents: I think that fear is marketable, so women are over fed on paranoia.

    At the same time, porn and propaganda have put bad expectations in some percentile of dumb men.

    Both sexes are generally out of social practice, and societal trust is at an all time low. Most people are nice, but most people are also awkward.

    So get out there and meet some people, don’t even do so romantically, just go learn how to interact with people, form some friendships.

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    why do y’all act like you’ve been wronged

    Because you equate "being around men" to "being raped".
    Which makes you sad and uninteresting to chat with. 👋

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    At worst, you’ve committed to a fight that will never ask you to do any fighting.

    Then why should i bother? Where's all the women empowerment?

    in a world where you can barely make friends without a car or money

    Those aren't friends... strange world you live in.

    this unfairness you’re subject to will not go away unless the thing that’s causing it is dealt with.

    Predators have existed since mankind has existed, it's human nature (oh, wait, this is the internet, here's a disclaimer: no, i'm not defending predators, i'm just saying they've always existed; yes, that's bad).
    So what you're saying is this unfairness will not go away, ever. How nice.

    Here's a third idea:
    Most men aren't predators.
    No one likes being generalized and discriminated against.
    Men will 99% of the times be suspected of being in the wrong whenever there's any kind of gender conflict, even if they're not in the wrong.

    As always, this specific topic needs nuance and cultural context, to say the least, which is something you generally don't find on the internet.

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    who think you “don’t count” because you’re “one of the good ones”.

    Oh that's cool, I know a lot of black people like that.

    "Wait what? Wdym that's racist? But I should accept 'one of the good ones' when it applies to me? I'm too ND for this bullshit."

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    Well my whole life there was this women's sexual liberation movement that has been screaming about how women DO in fact enjoy sex and ARE in fact horny too. Maybe that explains the common misconception.

  • sundray@lemmus.orgS
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    Well in that case...

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    You are one ugly motherrapist.

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    I don't have to assume, it's literally proven by their comments. It's the same for you since you're all over this thread moaning about the fact that women dare be scared of men.

    Also you're example is ridiculous and asinine. An actual example would be like if a white person was complaining of white discrimination on a post condemning systemic racism. The fact that you felt the need to say anything says everything I need to know about you or OP.