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      just lie on your resume bro

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        Title's been outdated for a while now. It's 5+ years

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          Just apply anyway if it otherwise seems like a good fit. The requirements listed, except those required by law, are a wish list and not a minimum for consideration.

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            Title's been outdated for a while now. It's 5+ years

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            I remember my wife looking for a web dev position in early 2015 and at one place they were adamant that 5 years of HTML5 in experience was mandatory.

            Wikipedia says:

            On 28 October 2014, HTML5 was released as a W3C Recommendation,[32] bringing the specification process to completion.

            Edit: I know the spec was a work in progress since 2008 but it's still kind of a ridiculous requirement. To put it in to perspective, my wife's class was the first year that they trained on Html5 instead of 4.

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              Do what I did. Go to university then you'll get the experi...oh yeah, never mind

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                just lie on your resume bro

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                It's too thin. May I get a blanket at least?

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                  I remember my wife looking for a web dev position in early 2015 and at one place they were adamant that 5 years of HTML5 in experience was mandatory.

                  Wikipedia says:

                  On 28 October 2014, HTML5 was released as a W3C Recommendation,[32] bringing the specification process to completion.

                  Edit: I know the spec was a work in progress since 2008 but it's still kind of a ridiculous requirement. To put it in to perspective, my wife's class was the first year that they trained on Html5 instead of 4.

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                  Wikipedia also says:

                  HTML5 was first released in a public-facing form on 22 January 2008,[2] with a major update and "W3C Recommendation" status in October 2014.

                  5 years of HTML5 in 2015 was possible. It wasn't final, but the browsers started implementing it.

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                    Apparently you're supposed to get that experience as an unpaid intern before graduation. Some fucking bullshit, really.

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                      Just apply anyway if it otherwise seems like a good fit. The requirements listed, except those required by law, are a wish list and not a minimum for consideration.

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                      I really wish more people understood this. Assuming you manage to get past the automated screening (which, to be fair, can be hard if you're missing something obvious from their list), what matters is whether you appear competant and a good fit. Of course, if two candidates are similar, but one has more experience, they're more likely to get the job, but it's not a hard cut off.

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                        I really wish more people understood this. Assuming you manage to get past the automated screening (which, to be fair, can be hard if you're missing something obvious from their list), what matters is whether you appear competant and a good fit. Of course, if two candidates are similar, but one has more experience, they're more likely to get the job, but it's not a hard cut off.

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                        I really wish more people understood this.

                        Silly people taking 'requirement' literally. I'll bet they think the listed work hours and pay are literal too!

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                          I really wish more people understood this.

                          Silly people taking 'requirement' literally. I'll bet they think the listed work hours and pay are literal too!

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                          Yes, I agree it's ridiculous, but it's the way it is. Remember that the company is basically shopping for a new employee though. I you're looking to buy a new T.V., for instance, you probably start out with a list of things you really want it to have. Then you start looking for T.V.s and find that while that one has all the inputs you hoped for, it's twice the price of that one, which is just missing one, that you can probably get by without. Companies have to make a value judgement on every candidate, weighing thingsvlike length of experience against breadth of knowledge or how they'll fit in.

                          It would be better if the hours and pay were as stated, but they're part of the negotiation too. The harder the job is to fill, the stronger the candidate's position is in those negotiations, and visa versa.

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                            Joke’s on you, the positions are resume farms and your field isn’t hiring.

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                              Yes, I agree it's ridiculous, but it's the way it is. Remember that the company is basically shopping for a new employee though. I you're looking to buy a new T.V., for instance, you probably start out with a list of things you really want it to have. Then you start looking for T.V.s and find that while that one has all the inputs you hoped for, it's twice the price of that one, which is just missing one, that you can probably get by without. Companies have to make a value judgement on every candidate, weighing thingsvlike length of experience against breadth of knowledge or how they'll fit in.

                              It would be better if the hours and pay were as stated, but they're part of the negotiation too. The harder the job is to fill, the stronger the candidate's position is in those negotiations, and visa versa.

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                              The thing is, they often have preferred skills and experience listed in addition to the so called requirements. Both being used as preferred is very confusing to anyone who doesn't know that job listings are an absolute crap fest of misleading information and the common ways to interpret what 'they really mean'.

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                                Apparently you're supposed to get that experience as an unpaid intern before graduation. Some fucking bullshit, really.

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                                In all seriousness, getting an internship is key for a lot of industries now. And if you can’t be a paid internship, you should at least see if you can get college credit.

                                I was lucky enough to figure out how to get both credit and a shitty paycheck. Which was the ideal internship.

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                                  Unpaid. The secret is they want you to do unpaid work. It's bullshit.

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                                    Just apply anyway if it otherwise seems like a good fit. The requirements listed, except those required by law, are a wish list and not a minimum for consideration.

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                                    Unless they're using AI to filter, then it can be a hard requirement.

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                                      The thing is, they often have preferred skills and experience listed in addition to the so called requirements. Both being used as preferred is very confusing to anyone who doesn't know that job listings are an absolute crap fest of misleading information and the common ways to interpret what 'they really mean'.

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                                      Absolutely. Its absurd that the system works like this, but it does. Candidates understanding this evens the field somewhat, or, at least, expands the opportunities.

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                                        Unpaid. The secret is they want you to do unpaid work. It's bullshit.

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                                        Or have rich parents that can cover the unpaid part, and so the whole job market turns more of an elitist afair.

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                                          Reminder: 80% of jobs never reach job boards. Most businesses hire people via their social networks.

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