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  • K [email protected]

    I'm not religious, but the bible clearly states that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich person to get into heaven.
    There's debate about the "eye of the needle" being simple metaphor or whether it was an actual, but very tiny, gate to the city of Jerusalem. Regardless, the idea stands.

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    Not a lot of debate among scholars. There's no other evidence of the "eye of the needle" being used in a way that refers to the small doorway in a larger city gate or any of the other alternative readings. Conversely, there are sewing needles dated to that time and place that are roughly the same as modern sewing needles.

    The statement is exactly as radical as it looks at first glance. Rich people can't be right with God, period. All the rest is trying to invent a loophole to let rich people be Christians after Constantine made it widespread in the Roman Empire. First century Christians were almost entirely made of the poor people of the Empire, and would have had no problem at all with the statement as read. The modern reinterpretation is often argued by the exact same people who say you're not supposed to "read between the lines" of the Bible.

    Here's a Religion for Breakfast video on it: https://youtu.be/sf0Fm8aVApk

    And don't get me started on Paul's "the love of money is the root of all evil". Just totally bastardized for the Prosperity Gospel.

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      He should have to pay rent the whole time too.

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      I wonder how high the rent in hell is.

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        I wonder how high the rent in hell is.

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        Check prices by the jersey turnpike

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          No, he gets Paradise, but he never has to do nothing all day + never use his hands.

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            Why do we have to wait until he dies

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            • guyfawkes@midwest.socialG [email protected]

              Might as well round it up to 4 to account for inflation.

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              20% increase in living expenses with no salary adjustment.

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                And taxes.

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                Not just taxes on what he makes in hell, but also the taxes he was supposed to pay while alive.

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                  He should have to pay rent the whole time too.

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                  And the debt accrues interest.

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                  • catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                    Not just taxes on what he makes in hell, but also the taxes he was supposed to pay while alive.

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                    I'll add only that inflation 's a bitch, and you don't get raises in hell.

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                      Not a lot of debate among scholars. There's no other evidence of the "eye of the needle" being used in a way that refers to the small doorway in a larger city gate or any of the other alternative readings. Conversely, there are sewing needles dated to that time and place that are roughly the same as modern sewing needles.

                      The statement is exactly as radical as it looks at first glance. Rich people can't be right with God, period. All the rest is trying to invent a loophole to let rich people be Christians after Constantine made it widespread in the Roman Empire. First century Christians were almost entirely made of the poor people of the Empire, and would have had no problem at all with the statement as read. The modern reinterpretation is often argued by the exact same people who say you're not supposed to "read between the lines" of the Bible.

                      Here's a Religion for Breakfast video on it: https://youtu.be/sf0Fm8aVApk

                      And don't get me started on Paul's "the love of money is the root of all evil". Just totally bastardized for the Prosperity Gospel.

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                      The word for Aramaic word for "camel" is basically the same as for "heavy rope", which is a much more reasonable interpretation. Just as a rope is too big to fit through the eye of a needle, so is the material obsession of a rich person too big.

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                      • metostopholes@midwest.socialM [email protected]

                        I dunno, is that long enough?

                        Edit: Only 3.865 million years

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                        No, because he'll still need to pay rent, utilities, and taxes. He'll be lucky if he pays off that debt before the heat death of the universe.

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                          I wonder how high the rent in hell is.

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                          Probably pretty cheap considering people are always dying to get in there

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                            Why do we have to wait until he dies

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                            And will netflix run with the idea because I'd like to watch

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                            • K [email protected]

                              I'm not religious, but the bible clearly states that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich person to get into heaven.
                              There's debate about the "eye of the needle" being simple metaphor or whether it was an actual, but very tiny, gate to the city of Jerusalem. Regardless, the idea stands.

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                              The original word means thick string iirc. Still hard, but not quite as ludicrous

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                              • infinitehench@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                Why do we have to wait until he dies

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                                Hierarchy!

                                Man, don't you know? The law ain't made to help earthy cats like us. Here on our planet, back in the old days - back in the real old days - it was just every man for himself, scrooblin' and scrat-scroblin' for the good stuff, the greenest valleys. And the strongest, meanest men got the best stuff. They got the green valleys and were like 'The rest of you, y'all scrats get sand.' And that's when they made the laws, you see? Once the strong guys got it how they liked it, they said 'This is fair now, this is the law.' Once they were winning, they changed the rules up

                                ~ Jake the dog

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                                  Homie, it's 2025, everything runs in parallel these days..

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                                  In parallel and multiple dimensions.

                                  Not to confuse with universes.
                                  We are now in the mirror universe.

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                                    Assuming his networth 241 billion, 7 dollar minimum wage, 24 hour workdays, that would be just under 4 million years

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                                    • K [email protected]

                                      Probably pretty cheap considering people are always dying to get in there

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                                      Surely that'd make it expensive! It's in high demand!

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                                        Assuming his networth 241 billion, 7 dollar minimum wage, 24 hour workdays, that would be just under 4 million years

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                                        I say tack on another week of wages for every disciplinary action, and if he somehow still magically becomes a perfect employee and completes it with the handicap, fuck it, let him into heaven.

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                                          Why do we have to wait until he dies

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                                          I don't trust Bezos to distribute his wealth, but I sure as fuck don't trust anarchists or tankies to do it, either. I DO trust a democracy to do it via taxation, but apparently that's a fucking minority, too, so it never gets enough votes.

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