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    A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

    I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

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    Cross 1, so it's 0

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      And 13 is unclear if it's strictly 'more than' or 'more than or equal'

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      That's on purpose - white skin? it can be either one; otherwise both are wrong.

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        And 13 is unclear if it's strictly 'more than' or 'more than or equal'

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        I would always assume not more than or equal unless it says so

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          Check this out.

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          Yeah I have seen what one of those tests look like before

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          • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

            You cross out all of the 0s after the 1 and first 5 0s, so that the number is 100,000

            Or you cross out just the 1

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            Six zeroes, right? Five zeroes makes one hundred thousand. Six makes a million. Or am I missing something?

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              I wonder if it would change anything if instead of a quiz you just like handed people a printout of like a summary of how government works from Wikipedia. Like, maybe convert some people who think the president makes laws.

              It would probably still be corrupted by conservatives, sadly.

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                Six zeroes, right? Five zeroes makes one hundred thousand. Six makes a million. Or am I missing something?

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                You need to make it under one million

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                • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                  Yeah I have seen what one of those tests look like before

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                  And you still think a test like that, applied to all, would be a good idea?

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                  • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

                    It is 100% used as a weapon to disenfranchise voters.

                    I do however believe that it should be used on CANDIDATES.

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                    Who gets to design the test, though?

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                    • facedeer@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                      Perhaps the exam should have included a section on the history of civil rights and voting suppression in the United States.

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                      Ah, yes: if you acknowledge it existed, you fail and can't vote.

                      That's what you had in mind, right? 'Cause that's what would happen.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

                        I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

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                        I think it's supposed to say "Cross out the digit necessary", so one digit, in which case cross out the 1 because there's enough 0's that crossing out one 0 isn't enough.

                        It's 10 that has me confused. Is it asking for the last letter of the first word that starts with 'L' in that sentence? It doesn't actually specify.

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                        • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                          You need to cross out enough zeros so that it makes a million. Pretty sure

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                          I mean purely pedantic, I have no idea the original test writers... but based on how I read the words

                          The number (one singular number needs to be crossed out)

                          Below one million, IE number < 1,000,000

                          So my conclusion

                          10000000000 < 1,000,000

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                          • J [email protected]

                            I wonder if it would change anything if instead of a quiz you just like handed people a printout of like a summary of how government works from Wikipedia. Like, maybe convert some people who think the president makes laws.

                            It would probably still be corrupted by conservatives, sadly.

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                            If I've learned anything in the last 6 months it's that the president makes laws.

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                            • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                              You need to make it under one million

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                              This is an example of the gotcha this test did, you can read the question two different ways. Making the number below the question one million, or making the number itself below one million.

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                                This is probably in part a meritocracy, though how the government defines 'merit' is probably quite subjective.

                                Humans are all too human. A purely statistical vote such as proportional representation is most likely the most scientific method regardless of what government is elected. If a civilisation must fall through its own vices and fallacy (oh hey, we've been there before!), then let's allow the collective consciousness of our fellow human beings work it out.

                                Ever...so...fucking...slowly.

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                                • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                  Yes I did watch a vid about those tests lately. The issue there was that whites did not have to take them. If everyone has to take tests and they are designed sanely that should not be an issue.

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                                  They did take them, and then were passed when their test was checked because the answers are specifically ambiguous, made to be able to fail or pass anyone at the discretion of the testing authority.

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                                    Cross 1, so it's 0

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                                    I'd second this interpretation... least based on my interpretation of "cross out THE NUMBER".

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                                      What that actually looked like:

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                                      Also worth pointing out, WHY the test is so bad... 1. obviously not even well educated people today can agree on the meaning of a good portion of the questions.

                                      but the biggest thing is, not everyone had to take them... IE the key point intention was "if a parent or grandparent has ever voted, you can skip this test". which is such a blatant giving away that they don't care of an individuals knowledge, they aren't actually worried if they can read, they were just keeping first generation voters from voting... at a time when in particular a specific subset of american's were in position to be first generation voters.

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                                        Who gets to design the test, though?

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                                        That is the one fear, especially considering... a now controlling amount of politicians can't accept basic facts... so we'd see questions like "is climate change real", "how old is the earth".

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                                          Ah yes, blamed the disenfranchised voters for not wanting to jump through another hoop. Its a big club, and, sorry, pal; even if you fill out the test, you ain't in it.

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