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  • bad@jlai.luB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
    I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

    [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
    Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

    [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
    Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

    [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

    [a confused nazi asks]
    Why… why are they still arguing?

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    • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

      [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
      I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

      [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
      Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

      [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
      Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

      [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

      [a confused nazi asks]
      Why… why are they still arguing?

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      #2

      Left unity is a lie.

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      • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

        [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
        I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

        [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
        Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

        [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
        Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

        [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

        [a confused nazi asks]
        Why… why are they still arguing?

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        #3

        I'm anti authoritarian and anti right. Tankies are leftists that I have no interest in getting along with. They are just as excited to be holding the gun in this comic

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        • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

          [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
          I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

          [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
          Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

          [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
          Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

          [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

          [a confused nazi asks]
          Why… why are they still arguing?

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          Infighting | The Bad Website

          Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website

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          The Bad Website (thebad.website)

          orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          This is what happens when hyper-individuality becomes a core of your (western) society. It’s also a byproduct that inadvertently benefits the ruling class. They want division and leftist pockets are already doing it themselves in a lot of cases. Purity tests can fracture communities and needlessly push away potential allies.

          It’s why I tend to quote Fred Hampton often. He correctly understood that it was a working class versus ruling class situation and that arguing amongst ourselves was detrimental to organizing. It’s a vertical fight and horizontal attacks waste energy. You can still point out errors in what a comrade says. Criticism, self-criticism, and debate are all components of democratic centralism.

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          • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

            [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
            I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

            [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
            Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

            [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
            Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

            [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

            [a confused nazi asks]
            Why… why are they still arguing?

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            Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website

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            alliswell33@lemmy.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            The antidote to infighting in my experience is organizing in ideologically diverse spaces. I've organized with liberals and all types of different leftists. It has left me with the perspective that all these people are good people that just want better for the world. It's hard to get angry at them once you know them. Per usual the solution is to touch grass.

            eviledgelord@sh.itjust.worksE devfuuu@lemmy.worldD A R 0 5 Replies Last reply
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            • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

              [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
              I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

              [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
              Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

              [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
              Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

              [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

              [a confused nazi asks]
              Why… why are they still arguing?

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              Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website

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              #6

              Argue all you want as long as you vote (for Dems).

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              • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                [a confused nazi asks]
                Why… why are they still arguing?

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                Infighting | The Bad Website

                Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website

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                The Bad Website (thebad.website)

                diva@lemmy.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                this is terminally online behavior. Marxists I've run into in actual organizing work are generally pretty chill and more interested in the work than trying to tell me I have the wrong opinion.

                Anyone complaining about "tankies" when there's actual Nazis around is doing their work for them.

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                • rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.comR [email protected]

                  Left unity is a lie.

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                  #8

                  Im at 3 minutes and he is still not talking about the topic. What are the arguments?

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                    Argue all you want as long as you vote (for Dems).

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                    #9

                    Are they actually good?

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                    • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                      [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                      I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                      [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                      Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                      [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                      Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                      [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                      [a confused nazi asks]
                      Why… why are they still arguing?

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                      I think the premise here is flawed. It assumes infighting is the reason why we can't coalesce around a single candidate but the real reason why that isn't happening is because the DNC keeps backing right wing candidates who don't represent any of us. Too many people are under the false belief that being a Democratic politician makes one the "good guy" in the face of "evil Republicans" when in reality we've just been given two Republican candidates to choose from at the ballot box for quite some time now. They all work for the same masters and don't give a shit about fixing this broken country. They aren't two different sides, they're all on the same side against the American people.

                      agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA bad@jlai.luB 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                        [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                        I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                        [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                        Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                        [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                        Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                        [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                        [a confused nazi asks]
                        Why… why are they still arguing?

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                        #11

                        Definitely more of a problem online where everyone is competing to be "right" as if there is any one actual answer.

                        Even empathetic people still want simple answers and are willing to be pretty cruel to protect theirs.

                        Oh also really funny comic, love the punchline timing. Can really feel it.

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                        • K [email protected]

                          Definitely more of a problem online where everyone is competing to be "right" as if there is any one actual answer.

                          Even empathetic people still want simple answers and are willing to be pretty cruel to protect theirs.

                          Oh also really funny comic, love the punchline timing. Can really feel it.

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                          #12

                          Thanks a lot! 💝

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                          • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                            [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                            I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                            [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                            Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                            [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                            Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                            [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                            [a confused nazi asks]
                            Why… why are they still arguing?

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                            #13

                            Ok seriously, on a comic level, I just cant stop looking at the action bubble of that fight and just love it. Would look so good on a shirt or pin. Its got classic pop art vibes.

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                              Are they actually good?

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                              #14

                              "Look they only offer half of what I want. Better protest no vote in Trump. That'll only do several decades of damage instead. Much better than only half of what I want."

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                                I think the premise here is flawed. It assumes infighting is the reason why we can't coalesce around a single candidate but the real reason why that isn't happening is because the DNC keeps backing right wing candidates who don't represent any of us. Too many people are under the false belief that being a Democratic politician makes one the "good guy" in the face of "evil Republicans" when in reality we've just been given two Republican candidates to choose from at the ballot box for quite some time now. They all work for the same masters and don't give a shit about fixing this broken country. They aren't two different sides, they're all on the same side against the American people.

                                agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                It assumes infighting is the reason why we can't coalesce around a single candidate but the real reason why that isn't happening is because the DNC keeps backing right wing candidates who don't represent any of us.

                                That wouldn't really matter if we coalesced behind the candidates we want in the primary.

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                                • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                                  [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                                  I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                                  [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                                  Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                                  [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                                  Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                                  [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                                  [a confused nazi asks]
                                  Why… why are they still arguing?

                                  Link Preview Image
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                                  Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website

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                                  Sorry if I don't want to ally with people who constantly talk about killing other leftists (aka all of lemmy.ml).

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                                  • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

                                    This is what happens when hyper-individuality becomes a core of your (western) society. It’s also a byproduct that inadvertently benefits the ruling class. They want division and leftist pockets are already doing it themselves in a lot of cases. Purity tests can fracture communities and needlessly push away potential allies.

                                    It’s why I tend to quote Fred Hampton often. He correctly understood that it was a working class versus ruling class situation and that arguing amongst ourselves was detrimental to organizing. It’s a vertical fight and horizontal attacks waste energy. You can still point out errors in what a comrade says. Criticism, self-criticism, and debate are all components of democratic centralism.

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                                    #17

                                    The problem lies when one particular set of "leftists" thinks the best way foward is to have a literal capitalist state with a red flag and execute anyone who could even be a minimal obstacle to that.

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                                      Are they actually good?

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                                      No, but we don't have the popularity and support to elect good candidates yet, so right now it's a choice between bad and worse. We should be doing what we can to avoid worse.

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                                        "Look they only offer half of what I want. Better protest no vote in Trump. That'll only do several decades of damage instead. Much better than only half of what I want."

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                                        #19

                                        Perhaps that was an argument before Trump got voted, but now? What have the Dems actually done? Why not vote someone else instead of these 2 garbage options?

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                                          Ok seriously, on a comic level, I just cant stop looking at the action bubble of that fight and just love it. Would look so good on a shirt or pin. Its got classic pop art vibes.

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                                          You caught me: I spent a lot of time working on getting that bit juuuust right because because I'm going to get it printed on a mug and gift it to a couple people who'll love it. Glad you liked it, it means I did it right!

                                          Making t-shirts and merch is my sidequest when drawing smuggies. I don't sell them, it's just for self-wear, I've got an entire wardrobe of them by now. The one I'm wearing today :

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