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  • M [email protected]

    lol hilariously bigoted of you... Genuinely, pathetic. You will never be capable of furthering your own cause with such a hateful attitude. Seriously, you should shut up about things you care about if this is your tact, because you will only hurt the cause.

    While it is not academically accurate to say white is a race, it is colloquially accurate. So fuck off with your hateful pedantry if you know what's best for yourself and anti-racist causes.

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    Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅

    Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅

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      Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅

      Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅

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      Where did I say anything about reproduction? Are you so pathetic you cannot even work past baby's first talking points?

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        I am not dismissing the solutions. I am arguing against the original phrasing of the suggestion. If you rephrase it to mean something that wasn't originally said, then of course you won't understand the implications of the much more poorly stated version...

        For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.

        Ask them before meeting (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant), but don't tell them yours... If all good people followed that advice, then no good people will tell others their leanings first, and since no one is telling their leanings, no one would agree to meet.

        It's right there, in two fucking sentences. How is this so difficult to understand?

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        (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant)

        No, not literally... Okay.

        MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.

        "Make sure to not let them fool you" is a goal, "never tell them yours first" is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this "poorly stated" version just fine: this isn't programming, you can break the strategy's rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.

        The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they're actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they're trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?

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        • M [email protected]

          Where did I say anything about reproduction? Are you so pathetic you cannot even work past baby's first talking points?

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          You're shrieking with baby's first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby's first conceded.

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            You're shrieking with baby's first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby's first conceded.

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            I don't care who others date. I do care about people spreading racist hate. Your bigotry is not appreciated and it's hilarious that you claim to be against racism while espousing such bigotry. Genuinely, you are pathetically not self-aware.

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              (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant)

              No, not literally... Okay.

              MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.

              "Make sure to not let them fool you" is a goal, "never tell them yours first" is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this "poorly stated" version just fine: this isn't programming, you can break the strategy's rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.

              The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they're actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they're trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?

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              How are you this confused over two sentences? You are seriously braindead...

              English isn't programming that's why PHRASING is important. If you cannot understand that basic, utterly foundational tenant of communication, then there truly is no hope for you.

              Nobody should be required to understand what is meant by a poorly phrased sentiment. Good communication is about what messages can be received, not about what was intended. It's exactly why professional writers say to avoid idioms. It doesn't matter what is meant. It matters what can be received.

              It is wholly on you if you continue to fail to understand this utterly basic lesson of clear communication. One more time just to be clear: I am not against the sentiment of what was said. I am against phrasing it in such flippantly silly ways.

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                I don't care who others date. I do care about people spreading racist hate. Your bigotry is not appreciated and it's hilarious that you claim to be against racism while espousing such bigotry. Genuinely, you are pathetically not self-aware.

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                You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.

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                • M [email protected]

                  How are you this confused over two sentences? You are seriously braindead...

                  English isn't programming that's why PHRASING is important. If you cannot understand that basic, utterly foundational tenant of communication, then there truly is no hope for you.

                  Nobody should be required to understand what is meant by a poorly phrased sentiment. Good communication is about what messages can be received, not about what was intended. It's exactly why professional writers say to avoid idioms. It doesn't matter what is meant. It matters what can be received.

                  It is wholly on you if you continue to fail to understand this utterly basic lesson of clear communication. One more time just to be clear: I am not against the sentiment of what was said. I am against phrasing it in such flippantly silly ways.

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                  I'm not the one confused, I understood Sahara just fine. I'm more confused why we're 10 comments deep into, essentially, Sahara's choice to use the word "never."

                  I'm asking this seriously: how do you handle sarcasm? Or hyperbole?

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                    Lets just say, they protested and did direct action. Which is more meaningful and has a greater positive effect than some kayfabe like voting.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                      That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

                      Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

                      Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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                      The entire point of the Biden and Biden/Harris campaign was to make Trump term 1 bipartisan. "No, if you hate immigrants, you should vote for me. Because Democrats fill out the paperwork properly and like bureaucracy, so ICE will work more efficiently and the Wall will be built better, faster and cheaper" - Both Biden and Harris campaigns

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                      • B [email protected]

                        I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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                        "the problem is that people don't fully support the Democrats unconditionally. Not that the Democrats only run on being 'Republican Lite' and Republican voters wont support the Lite option when full calorie is on the menu"

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                        • B [email protected]

                          The majority of Americans in general regardless of age didn't vote at all. I think I understand what you were trying to say either that or you were just being ageist

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                          Not a majority, just a plurality

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                            History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                            That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

                            Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

                            Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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                            History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                            That's why I think we should keep the carnage at 100%

                            Weird take but ok

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                              white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race

                              Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number

                              That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people

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                              white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race

                              All "races" are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn't even uniform across different cultures.

                              means the absence of race

                              And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.

                              why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people

                              While it's quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it's impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that's so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Narrator: Neither of them voted.

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                                I know who I'm NOT voting for: anybody

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                                • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                                  You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.

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                                  Mate, using your logic "black" isn't a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term "race" is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it's "impossible to be racist against black people" which would be seen as a racist remark.

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                                    Lets just say, they protested and did direct action. Which is more meaningful and has a greater positive effect than some kayfabe like voting.

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                                    Let's protect each other by being careful about what we say.

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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                                      My vote in the last election LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A GOD DAMNED THING.

                                      Get the fuck over yourself and just let your high horse fuck you in the ass. Take your idealism elsewhere. Fucking exhausting.

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.

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                                        Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.

                                        I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.

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                                        • K [email protected]

                                          This would be an argument for not attending protests or volunteering. But voting takes basically no fucking effort.

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                                          That's a privileged take. The right wing has made voting a lot fucking harder for certain groups in certain places.

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