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  • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

    white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race

    Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number

    That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people

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    white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race

    All "races" are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn't even uniform across different cultures.

    means the absence of race

    And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.

    why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people

    While it's quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it's impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that's so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.

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      Narrator: Neither of them voted.

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      I know who I'm NOT voting for: anybody

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      • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

        You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.

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        Mate, using your logic "black" isn't a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term "race" is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it's "impossible to be racist against black people" which would be seen as a racist remark.

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          Lets just say, they protested and did direct action. Which is more meaningful and has a greater positive effect than some kayfabe like voting.

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          Let's protect each other by being careful about what we say.

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            I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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            My vote in the last election LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A GOD DAMNED THING.

            Get the fuck over yourself and just let your high horse fuck you in the ass. Take your idealism elsewhere. Fucking exhausting.

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              Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.

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              Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.

              I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.

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                This would be an argument for not attending protests or volunteering. But voting takes basically no fucking effort.

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                That's a privileged take. The right wing has made voting a lot fucking harder for certain groups in certain places.

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                  Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.

                  I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.

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                  Do something or shut the fuck up and stop crying. If you sat on your hands then you don’t get to be mad, simple as.

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                    19 upvotes, 84 downvotes

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                    Are you implying I should give a shit about something here? Cause I really don't. Try harder with an actual argument rather than an idiot popularity vote.

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                    • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                      That's why I think we should keep the carnage at 100%

                      Weird take but ok

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                      Always astonishing to me that I am either being cut lightly a thousand times or fucking gutted by a fish, and I'm angry about all of it and you all seem to think the mature answer is to be grateful for the light cutting cause it's "better" by comparison.

                      "A person can be smart, but people are stupid."

                      Most people are complete utter fucking morons about this. Enjoy voting for slower death and somehow finding a smugness in it.

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                        Always astonishing to me that I am either being cut lightly a thousand times or fucking gutted by a fish, and I'm angry about all of it and you all seem to think the mature answer is to be grateful for the light cutting cause it's "better" by comparison.

                        "A person can be smart, but people are stupid."

                        Most people are complete utter fucking morons about this. Enjoy voting for slower death and somehow finding a smugness in it.

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                        Don't complain. You said the options were 100% carnage, or 75% carnage, and because there's no 0% carnage option, you're happy letting 100% win. What people are trying to explain to you is that you should reduce harm as much as possible, even if you can't reduce it entirely.

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                          Are you implying I should give a shit about something here? Cause I really don't. Try harder with an actual argument rather than an idiot popularity vote.

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                          no i was just being unfunny and pointing out how at the moment i took the screenshot, the upvote-downvote counters were literally 1984

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                            My vote in the last election LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A GOD DAMNED THING.

                            Get the fuck over yourself and just let your high horse fuck you in the ass. Take your idealism elsewhere. Fucking exhausting.

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                            Defeatist prick

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                              Was it me? I bet it was me. That's okay, though. I probably wouldn't vote for me either.

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                                Mate, using your logic "black" isn't a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term "race" is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it's "impossible to be racist against black people" which would be seen as a racist remark.

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                                nah that's not my logic you're just a fucking moron

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                                  white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race

                                  All "races" are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn't even uniform across different cultures.

                                  means the absence of race

                                  And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.

                                  why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people

                                  While it's quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it's impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that's so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.

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                                  And that is actually a profoundly racist statement

                                  okay crakkker

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                                  • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                                    nah that's not my logic you're just a fucking moron

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                                    Explain how it isn't? Typically once someone resorts to name calling in a discussion it's a good sign they know they're in the wrong.

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                                      Explain how it isn't? Typically once someone resorts to name calling in a discussion it's a good sign they know they're in the wrong.

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                                      #162

                                      fuck you

                                      you explain how the shit you decided to write is my logic

                                      fucking asshole pompous piece of shit hypocrite

                                      self oblivious dumb motherfucker

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                                        I'm not the one confused, I understood Sahara just fine. I'm more confused why we're 10 comments deep into, essentially, Sahara's choice to use the word "never."

                                        I'm asking this seriously: how do you handle sarcasm? Or hyperbole?

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                                        Depends on how tactfully they're used. I'm amazed a basic lesson on phrasing and tact is so far out of your league. This entire conversation is pathetic. For you.

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                                          Depends on how tactfully they're used. I'm amazed a basic lesson on phrasing and tact is so far out of your league. This entire conversation is pathetic. For you.

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                                          Okay, so the word "never" is being used here in its hyperbolic form to, tactfully, strengthen the rhetoric. It impassions the speech to deliver a point with more verve than another choice would.

                                          The message is easy to receive. What is it you gain by being this needlessly contrarian?

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