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    When and where?

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    Mad Men, all seasons. Obviously.

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      Men mostly had office jobs. Office workers do not "do" much. Sitting at a table with a plastic box and a phone is not particularly strenuous. Their diets paired with excessive smoking, drinking and inactivity for most of their days caused the high death rate. Office workers, even now, do not "do" very much in comparison to other professions.

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      Even today, the workplace death rate for men is something like 20x that of women.

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        Extra Sour Flamin' Hot Jell-O. 🤤

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        This will give me nightmares I fear.

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          How old are you? 😆

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          Mid 40's. Not an office worker

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            Men mostly had office jobs. Office workers do not "do" much. Sitting at a table with a plastic box and a phone is not particularly strenuous. Their diets paired with excessive smoking, drinking and inactivity for most of their days caused the high death rate. Office workers, even now, do not "do" very much in comparison to other professions.

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            Men did not mostly have office jobs in the 1950s and 60s.

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              Well, yeah. Most people would much rather spend their time and energy taking care of their children than laboring away for someone else's profit. They may not phrase it like that, but raising children is far more self-fulfilling than working a job could ever be for most people. I imagine in most cases, people prefer tons of hard work raising a child when compared to working the easy cozy job, because at the end of the day the job is just a means to an end.

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              Speaking as a working parent (married to another working parent), it's worth pointing out that this dichotomy isn't mutually exclusive:

              raising children is far more self-fulfilling than working a job could ever be for most people.

              I agree with this! But I also would note that of the 168 hours in a week, being away from them for 50 of them (especially if they're at school anyway for 30 of them) doesn't really detract from my ability to do both big picture parenting (teaching life skills, moral values, building memories, being a role model) or even the small stuff that adds up (cooking meals, helping with homework, listening to them, talking to them, taking them to and from extracurricular activities, pursuing hobbies together, etc.).

              So it's not an all or nothing thing. Most working parents can still raise children in an immensely fulfilling way, so the fulfilling part of a stay at home parent isn't actually exclusive to the stay at home parents.

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