I've had like 5 and I have zero idea what you're referring to

It's true, they just get nerfed into planned obsolesce which causes the company to get sued.

Didn't see any indication anyone would say that. If they did, that would be delusional.

Lol Apple fans have strong feelings about their tech choices. Defending Apple in social media gets you 5% off your next purchase of nearly the same hardware stretched across different formfactors as "choice"! Never change consumers.

Wait until you hear what the fix is for the exploding Pixel batteries

Oh I'm aware. Apple set the trend just like they did with the pricing of non Apple devices.

The Samsung A06 was launched (in Germany) in May (2025) and you can get it for ~80€.

Anyway, we're not talking about being angry with Apple, we're talking about why Apple is perceived more expensive/less affordable than Android. The reason: they don't have cheap/inexpensive phones (or anything inexpensive in any category). Apple is marketed as a premium brand, has premium prices, and we're making fun of that.

Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.

That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.

The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.

As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.

We're really not gonna devolve into "Apple is to blame for everything other manufacturers do" argument are we? These companies blow - but blaming one to excuse the others is nutty.

You're right. Apple charging $1000 dollars for a device had no bearing on capitalism's way of setting prices based on what consumers are willing to pay... Look up ultrabooks.

"it just works" is also what my partner says, but we can't videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD

I did a quick search - a nice option it seems.

That's fair - but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard. What Apple is lacking is budget phones like Samsung. Less features, less performant hardware, less cost. What I'm getting at is that Samsung has many more "premium" options compared to Apple - yet because Apple's options are only "premium" they're considered the phone for rich assholes with too much money, so maybe we should just be making fun of those people instead, regardless of their phone.

Sounds like your issue is with capitalism. Fair.

It is, but it's also with trillion dollar companies with slave labor, and no I'm not just talking about Apple this time.

100€ is about $115. So it's under 100€.

but the prices aren't really a premium are they? They're just standard.

They're standard for premium ranges.

The thing is, Apple markets themselves as a brand for wealthy, hipster kind of people, plus iPhones are very easily identifiable. Samsung never branded itself like that and with all the different (and third party) cases you usually don't spot them on first glance.

We make fun of the people that buy the branding by making fun of the brand. And I usually don't see people making fun of those who buy refurbished or used iPhones from five years or so, but of those who always have the newest generation.

Name a hated trend in phones which apple didn't do first

Now you’re getting it.

You gonna respond to anything else I mentioned or are you just gonna drop a useless pedantry and leave?

I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.

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The superior phone is the one you like to use.
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