I recall there being a warning about crazy

... your... appearance.

This is basically a message board.

You do not even have a profile image.

So you ... think I just know what you look like?

Is that narcissism or paranoia?

My life is a series of unintentional Letterkenny references

I should probably watch it at this point

I think it's a pickup artist.

It really does increase the number of people that flirt with you, because it's "safe" to flirt with you.

I took mine off recently and there's this air of "Oh you're single, nevermind."

The problem is most average looking men, when bedecked in goth shit, look like Bluey got run over by a Spencer's truck.

The dude in everyone's imagination wearing black makeup and jewelry looks like a strung-out rockstar with don't-give-a-fuck vibes who lives for adventure and wild nights. The vast majority of ACTUAL men have the body-shape of a rectangle and have to spend most of every day waiting in lines, attending Zoom calls, explaining to customers why their wifi doesn't work (Reset the router Ethel, no that's not a router, you're holding an egg steamer.)

We gotta abandon the idea that people have "looks" at all times. Lets repopularize costume parties so guys get a chance to try to dress-up without it being some kind of shocking change to their entire persona. I had a stiff, straight-edge boss who attended a Halloween party and went goth. Completely unrecognizable, he was a legend.

People should do what they are comfortable with, but yes, if a guy wants to attract women, this is definitely a way to get what he wants.

I was part of the alternative scene and I also thought the goth-boy aesthetic was very attractive. All the girls did. To me, the most attractive thing a man could do to his appearance was to let his hair grow long. Like past the shoulders long.

Didn't have to put on make up and jewelry. Just have long hair and you could be fat or skinny, pretty or ugly. Didn't fucking matter. I'd look. If Henry Cavill walked down the street next to a nerdy guy with long hair, I would look at the nerd everytime. If he wore band t-shirts and military boots, it was game over. Only way a guy could fuck it up for himself with me was if he started the nice guy routine or was so socially awkward he couldn't talk to a girl. I have experienced both. The latter was a full date where the guy didn't say a word to me once and I was the one who had walked 20 km to get to his place because he had social anxiety and couldn't leave his home. Poor guy. I hope he's doing better today.

Nowhere it was stated that ALL women are victims.

Saying that some people might be susceptible to certain kind of exploitation doesn't imply that all people of that group alhave that issue, or that they're somehow inferior

Lets repopularize costume parties so guys get a chance to try to dress-up

Yeah but isn't that what women do when "going out"? Makup and clothes that create a different look and style?. Maybe call it "persona", like "my social persona is male harajuku" (lol)

No, Ive never met Eileen, let alone cum on her...

Rolling up your shirt sleeves (as shown in fig 1) is a known panty pickler:

fig 1 - dude about to get some

I don't pretend to know why, but it works.

thank rob halford for bringing that look to the masses

Ah yes, the leather daddy BDSM iconic gay "look" that these totally hetero men who go on long trips together to scenic areas without women, and with vibrations the whole way to excite the twig and berries, and a nice massage to relax the rear end.

Bigger stretch than professional wrestling, but not much.

God fearing, homosexual hating trailer park kids don't realize that watching two oiled up men in spandex is.... well, pretty fucking gay. Not meant to be disparaging, I just mean the only things missing are penetration and a money shot.

May I preach the good word of bicycles? Big butts are great but you can make it not only muscular but also giant /hj

But yeah I only mention conditioner out of sympathy for my hetero sisters. Back in my beardy days it was a novelty where I was to condition it, which meant I had women asking to play with my beard because of how soft it was and complaining that their boyfriends' were uncomfortable to touch.

Am as described, (well, part of my hair is long, the middle. Sides not so much), wear band shirts (punk/metal mostly), and pull out the boots in the winter myself, buuuuuut

Only way a guy could fuck it up for himself with me was if he started the nice guy routine or was so socially awkward he couldn't talk to a girl.

100% I'd miss whatever sly little hints you're throwing, and even if I noticed them I'd think you're surely just being nice and there's no way you're into me.

I'd imagine I'm far from the only one, not talking at all on the date or being able to leave home is a little far lol, but don't write us off just because we are a little awkward or would rather miss signals than make someone feel uncomfortable being hit on in public! I mean hell, why do you think we have long hair and like metal/punk? It's often partially because we're a little socially awkward/anxious, and that community is very understanding of it!

My friend, I am not remotely the sly hinty type. I am an elephant in a china shop if I decide to pursue a guy.

At the same time, I am the queen of obliviousness if a guy I deeply respect and like shows me any form of romantic attention, because I don't believe that someone that amazing could ever like someone like me. Took my boyfriend a few months of sending literal love letters with romantic quotes and pressed flowers, a few visits to my apartment where we would just hang out and get to know each other and him telling me bluntly to my face after a few months that he had a crush on me before the hamster wheel started spinning in my head. The effort he put in to get to know me and to woo me was completely fucking alien to me because most of my romantic endeavors in the past had been me pulling teeth. So, I totally get the concept of being dumb as a brick when somebody likes you.

but don’t write us off just because we are a little awkward

My guy. I'm not talking about a "little" awkward. The example I gave was of a guy with debilitating social anxiety. When I said "so shy and awkward he couldn't talk to a girl" I mean it literally. He did not talk to me. He barely looked at me. I walked 20 km to see him at his place (which is pretty fucking stupid, but very gracious of a then 17 year old girl who just wanted this random guy she had never met, to feel comfortable) and I sat there and held a one-sided conversation afloat for at least an hour while he was a potato across from me. He was not a bad guy, he just could not talk to a girl. Probably never had talked to a girl until I came by. I gave up eventually and walked all the way back. 20 km.

I have never written a guy off for being a little awkward. Ever. What I did do was to often put my own comforts, needs and emotional well being on hold for guys who didn't bother to give anything back at all. I have dated shy, awkward and mentally ill guys. They weren't great to me. At all. I did all the work all the time and if I ever asked for a crumb of affection I had to deal with tantrums about how they had social anxiety or depression or something else so my comforts didn't matter because they had it worse and they came first and I had to be more mindful and patient with them.

Being a little shy and awkward is fine. I don't mind that at all. I mind it when it becomes what defines a person and they feel entitled to make their issue someone else's responsibility to carry for them.

Relationships are a two way street. You can be shy and awkward and even have social anxiety, but that is not up to a potential partner to fix or accommodate for you at the expense of their own mental and physical health. That is your burden to bear. In dating you cannot sit in silence and let the other person do all the work for you and then get offended if they move on from you. If you give them nothing, they won't stick around. Even a doormat like me ended up not wanting to deal with that bs anymore and I was lucky enough to end up with someone who understands that you need to earn the other person's affection and loyalty. It is not owed to you.

Can you imagine just walking around in modern society looking dolled up like a member of Poison? I'm sure they didn't even go around like that every day.