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  • C [email protected]

    History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

    That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

    Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

    Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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    The entire point of the Biden and Biden/Harris campaign was to make Trump term 1 bipartisan. "No, if you hate immigrants, you should vote for me. Because Democrats fill out the paperwork properly and like bureaucracy, so ICE will work more efficiently and the Wall will be built better, faster and cheaper" - Both Biden and Harris campaigns

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    • B [email protected]

      I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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      "the problem is that people don't fully support the Democrats unconditionally. Not that the Democrats only run on being 'Republican Lite' and Republican voters wont support the Lite option when full calorie is on the menu"

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      • B [email protected]

        The majority of Americans in general regardless of age didn't vote at all. I think I understand what you were trying to say either that or you were just being ageist

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        Not a majority, just a plurality

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        • C [email protected]

          History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

          That's why I don't even fucking vote anymore. When they DO have some ability to improve things, they barely do. Biden proved to be exactly the slow-moving watered-down change I expected.

          Fuck em all. And fuck you when you tell me how wrong I am. I really don't give a fuck.

          Put up serious change on the ticket or I'll just roll my eyes again.

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          History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

          That's why I think we should keep the carnage at 100%

          Weird take but ok

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          • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

            white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race

            Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number

            That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people

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            white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race

            All "races" are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn't even uniform across different cultures.

            means the absence of race

            And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.

            why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people

            While it's quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it's impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that's so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.

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            • M [email protected]

              Narrator: Neither of them voted.

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              I know who I'm NOT voting for: anybody

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              • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.

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                Mate, using your logic "black" isn't a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term "race" is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it's "impossible to be racist against black people" which would be seen as a racist remark.

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                • S [email protected]

                  Lets just say, they protested and did direct action. Which is more meaningful and has a greater positive effect than some kayfabe like voting.

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                  Let's protect each other by being careful about what we say.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    I was with you in the first half, until you said you don't vote. You're as much to blame for this shit as anyone

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                    My vote in the last election LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A GOD DAMNED THING.

                    Get the fuck over yourself and just let your high horse fuck you in the ass. Take your idealism elsewhere. Fucking exhausting.

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                    • N [email protected]

                      Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.

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                      Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.

                      I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        This would be an argument for not attending protests or volunteering. But voting takes basically no fucking effort.

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                        That's a privileged take. The right wing has made voting a lot fucking harder for certain groups in certain places.

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                        • C [email protected]

                          Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.

                          I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.

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                          Do something or shut the fuck up and stop crying. If you sat on your hands then you don’t get to be mad, simple as.

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                            19 upvotes, 84 downvotes

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                            Are you implying I should give a shit about something here? Cause I really don't. Try harder with an actual argument rather than an idiot popularity vote.

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                            • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                              History shows that if the Dems regain full control, they will not reverse all this carnage 100%. They will reverse maybe 25% of it and pretend the rest isn't happening and maybe claim they don't have enough control and we'll hear the term bipartisan.

                              That's why I think we should keep the carnage at 100%

                              Weird take but ok

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                              Always astonishing to me that I am either being cut lightly a thousand times or fucking gutted by a fish, and I'm angry about all of it and you all seem to think the mature answer is to be grateful for the light cutting cause it's "better" by comparison.

                              "A person can be smart, but people are stupid."

                              Most people are complete utter fucking morons about this. Enjoy voting for slower death and somehow finding a smugness in it.

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                                Always astonishing to me that I am either being cut lightly a thousand times or fucking gutted by a fish, and I'm angry about all of it and you all seem to think the mature answer is to be grateful for the light cutting cause it's "better" by comparison.

                                "A person can be smart, but people are stupid."

                                Most people are complete utter fucking morons about this. Enjoy voting for slower death and somehow finding a smugness in it.

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                                Don't complain. You said the options were 100% carnage, or 75% carnage, and because there's no 0% carnage option, you're happy letting 100% win. What people are trying to explain to you is that you should reduce harm as much as possible, even if you can't reduce it entirely.

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Are you implying I should give a shit about something here? Cause I really don't. Try harder with an actual argument rather than an idiot popularity vote.

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                                  no i was just being unfunny and pointing out how at the moment i took the screenshot, the upvote-downvote counters were literally 1984

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    My vote in the last election LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A GOD DAMNED THING.

                                    Get the fuck over yourself and just let your high horse fuck you in the ass. Take your idealism elsewhere. Fucking exhausting.

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                                    Defeatist prick

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                                      Was it me? I bet it was me. That's okay, though. I probably wouldn't vote for me either.

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