Voting
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The solution starts with you, Janet.
You need to stop pushing the idea that it doesn't matter who you vote for and the poisonous idea that all politicians are equally corrupt. There are some very dangerous groups who have brainwashed you into pushing the very attitude that lets them get away with slowly eroding democracy.
I have never once pushed for people to not vote or that it doesn't matter who you vote for. I don't know what about this conversation made you think that.
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You can sus people out other ways. The point is just to not let chameleons say whatever you said because they're horny.
That's a much different take than, "don't tell people your leanings and don't accept others that won't tell you theirs".
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Too soon… or too late time is a funny thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Too late seems pretty apt in this case!
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Cool story bud but that's not how shit works. Go play your reactionary, blame-shifting games elsewhere.
Edit: lol please keep responding you braindead Muppets, it lets me know who to block.
That is how it works. Don't break an arm jerking yourself off, there, hero.
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What if they were in a state where their vote wouldn't have even remotely changed the electoral vote outcome? It's a strawman blame game you're playing to feel smug about yourself in a generalized approach.
You don't know anyone's personal situation yet you have no qualm placing blame for a worldwide issue on a single individual.
Good for you. You shamed someone for not solving the worlds climate issues with a single fucking vote that may not have even made any difference at all.
Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.
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Theres a fire in my kitchen, but the fire extinguisher is only going to stop like 25% of the damage, so I'm committed to not stopping the fire.
To be clear, I also don't support the fire. But the fire extinguisher is:
- filled with chemicals
- makes a huge mess
- costs money to recharge
- may cause other damage from overspray
So the best thing for me and my kitchen is to do nothing until they make a "fix my kitchen" spray.
When you need the fire department but are only allowed to die trying to fight the out of control blaze or die throwing gas on it.
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Ouch, two reasons not to vote for Trump, IMO...
Genocide the natives and take their land? It does sound very American to be fair.
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Racism isn't the answer. That's just literally perpetuating problems.
wrote last edited by [email protected]white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race
Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number
That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people
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just don't date white people
play the odds
Oh I hate to break it to you, many people of color are very conservative, and some are also maga supporters.
The real advice is don't date people from known conservative places, go to liberal cities where you can at least know they are more-likely-than-not, to be at least left-of-center, and possibly a leftist.
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It's possible that his views were conflicted.
I have family whose politics I understand pretty well, and I don't know who they voted for. What I do know is that they were torn between: "Trump's blatant antisemitism is a danger to us here in America" and "Trump is good for Israel".
wrote last edited by [email protected]Oh lol I know someone like this. My (older) brother hates black people, but he is also smart enough to vote for Harris because we weren't born here and he doesn't want to be on the receiving end of racism. Now that's what I assumed anyways, he never told me who he voted for. But he spoke against trump and said he's a racist and doesn't like trump, and spoke positively of Biden, saying that "at least Biden didn't use Asian Americans as scapegoats [referring to covid], while that's what trump did", but he also refuse to recognize that he (my brother) himself is a racist lol.
People are so weird.
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When a parent tells a child 'the way it works' is that you only get to choose whether you want to brush your teeth before or after the last cartoon...
It's only 'the way it works' in the context of the parent being in charge and deciding what they want to do unilaterally. It's not actually how the world works.
The system needs to change for it to not be a bifurcation, for all practical purposes. The system of voting needs to be changed from First Past the Post to be something like Ranked Robin voting, STAR voting, or Score voting. All of those are my preferred alternatives, but Ranked Choice is still solid over First Past the Post as well.
A different voting system enables third parties to hold real power and to grow in influence.
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Oh I hate to break it to you, many people of color are very conservative, and some are also maga supporters.
The real advice is don't date people from known conservative places, go to liberal cities where you can at least know they are more-likely-than-not, to be at least left-of-center, and possibly a leftist.
play the odds
I know it might have gotten lost in the huge post with multiple paragraph breaks
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Too late seems pretty apt in this case!
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The system needs to change for it to not be a bifurcation, for all practical purposes. The system of voting needs to be changed from First Past the Post to be something like Ranked Robin voting, STAR voting, or Score voting. All of those are my preferred alternatives, but Ranked Choice is still solid over First Past the Post as well.
A different voting system enables third parties to hold real power and to grow in influence.
You can see that isn't a solution by the way it works in the UK
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You can see that isn't a solution by the way it works in the UK
wrote last edited by [email protected]It’s not the solution, but one of many I would say and an important one at that.
Also, the UK uses First Past the Post for the House of Commons, mayoral elections in England, Police and Crime Commissioner elections and local councils.
They use Alternative Voting systems for some of their elections for like the chair of committees in the House of Commons and the Lord Speaker.
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Genocide the natives and take their land? It does sound very American to be fair.
... can't argue with that
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white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race
Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number
That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people
Mental gymnastics won't save your soul.
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That's a much different take than, "don't tell people your leanings and don't accept others that won't tell you theirs".
I mean, I don't think it is.
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in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration
This is really a false dichotomy. There are so many other ways to fight against the atrocities. Given how enthusiastically the democrats are cooperating with the fascist agenda, if you didn't vote but you uploaded some info to one of those ice watch apps, or went and protested in LA, or shuffled papers to slow down their progress in your federal job, you probably already did more tangible good than someone who did the other way around.
Surely you don't mean to imply that you can only do one or the other. That would be a false dichotomy, which, surely, you would understand.
Non-voters just love piling on more shit to fight against, i guess.
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I mean, I don't think it is.
One is actively requesting avoidance and the other merely suggesting ulterior paths. It's the difference between someone saying, "punch that fuck in the face!" and, "words will do you no good with this one".
