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  • Z [email protected]

    This is an odd take just considering World War 2 is like the example of unity against a common genocidal threat: the Nazis.

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    Yeah that's why they're stupid. I think it's more of an astroturf op

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    • K [email protected]

      " The Holo-incident is not THAT bad"
      Tankies 🤝 Nazis

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      Man, tankie really doesn't mean anything anymore does it?

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      • D [email protected]

        Me? Is this because I said the SS should have been executed?

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        Are you now going to argue that that isn't an authoritarian act because it was justified? Because, guess what, every "authoritarian" believes their actions are justified

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        • F [email protected]

          I believe you are missing the forest for the trees.
          First, I acknowledge your examples are separate ideologies.

          That concept also applies to the right... social conservatives, right-libertarians, and neoliberal ideologies are equally separate. However, those practitioners have no qualms about banding together to suppress dissent (or until such time they are the only voices).

          Where the left leaning practitioners are unable to do so, they will be forever tyrannized by the banded majority.

          To put it more succinctly, the enemy of my enemy is my friend (when freedom is on the line).

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          This. They act like they're giving up fringe beliefs to keep the consensus more left. It's isolating and alienating

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          • B [email protected]

            a tankie has a gun with one bullet, and across from them is a socialist, a liberal, a conservative, and a tiny clone of hitler

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            He shoots the liberal twice and then drinks marx cum

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            • B [email protected]

              I was in very close proximity to a Russian-driven disinformation campaign in 2016 that used and exploited leftist organizations for its own benefit.

              How did you uncover this information?

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              Articles started popping up and an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved. A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin, was flowing money to these orgs under the guise of a common goal and alignment. Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates. It was US-esque tactics on US soil.

              I didn’t uncover anything and was merely volunteering with one of the groups when I could, but it was one of those “oh fuck” moments when I saw articles involving the group I was working with.

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              • B [email protected]

                Lol, in a post condemning leftist infighting, people are up voting people attacking other leftists for being from the wrong instance

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                No, we are attacking people for hanging out in an Nazi authie genocide denying transphobe bars.

                I’m more interested in top vs bottom than left vs right.

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                • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                  [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                  I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                  [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                  Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                  [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                  Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                  [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                  [a confused nazi asks]
                  Why… why are they still arguing?

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                  #144

                  Yeah, pretty much this.

                  Going over the comments I already see boat loads of people completely missing the point where right wing extremism is taking hold thanks in part due to the constant bickering.

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                  • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                    [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                    I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                    [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                    Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                    [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                    Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                    [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                    [a confused nazi asks]
                    Why… why are they still arguing?

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                    #145

                    The only thing that matters is policy, I'll work with anyone as long as it's toward an egalitarian society with wealth redistribution.

                    Labels are nice for classifying, but not for executing. I don't care if you identify as leftist, or liberal, or progressive; I care if you support good policies.

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                    • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                      No, we are attacking people for hanging out in an Nazi authie genocide denying transphobe bars.

                      I’m more interested in top vs bottom than left vs right.

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                      I’m more interested in top vs bottom

                      Yeah man, .ml is definitely the ruling class. For sure.

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                      • eldritch@piefed.worldE [email protected]

                        I do it all the time. Done it several places in this thread even. Though lying and dishonesty from a joke like you. Who's shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities. That's completely on brand.

                        For every weak and tepid bit of support I've ever given the DNC during the presidential election. I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out. Because I do it all the time. However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren't interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.

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                        I do it all the time.

                        I literally never see it, but I do often see you saying things that are explicitly incompatible with anarchism.

                        Who’s shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities

                        "We make fun of you in our secret tree house that you aren't allowed in" is not the sick burn you think.

                        I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out.

                        And for every one tepid, qualified criticism of the democrats you offer, I could you give 20 of you viciously tearing into the left for not supporting the democrats enough.

                        However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren’t interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.

                        Oh my god, go back to Reddit you insufferable dweeb. You're really doing the "facts and logic" bullshit?

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                        • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

                          Articles started popping up and an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved. A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin, was flowing money to these orgs under the guise of a common goal and alignment. Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates. It was US-esque tactics on US soil.

                          I didn’t uncover anything and was merely volunteering with one of the groups when I could, but it was one of those “oh fuck” moments when I saw articles involving the group I was working with.

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                          Articles started popping up

                          What do you mean "articles"? Articles where? Based on what?

                          an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved

                          Involved in what? How did you determine this?

                          A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin

                          What do mean "very obviously associated with the Kremlin"? How did you determine this?

                          Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates.

                          Again, how did you determine this?

                          it was one of those “oh fuck” moments

                          What was? What actually was found?

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                          • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                            [dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
                            I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

                            [dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
                            Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

                            [dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
                            Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

                            [the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

                            [a confused nazi asks]
                            Why… why are they still arguing?

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                            I don't care what someone calls themselves as long as they oppose fascism and understand that the only place where Pedophiles are welcome is the inside of a wood chipper.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Articles started popping up

                              What do you mean "articles"? Articles where? Based on what?

                              an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved

                              Involved in what? How did you determine this?

                              A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin

                              What do mean "very obviously associated with the Kremlin"? How did you determine this?

                              Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates.

                              Again, how did you determine this?

                              it was one of those “oh fuck” moments

                              What was? What actually was found?

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                              Alexander Ionov was charged by a US Dept. of Justice indictment unsealed on July 29, 2022. He is accused of working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States.[10] According to the indictment, Ionov is accused of providing support to political campaigns in Florida, advocating for California's secession from the United States, and financing a protest tour in solidarity with a petition denouncing the alleged "genocide" of African people within the country.[11]

                              The organizations him and his company worked with were also pulled into that investigation and, in some cases, charged themselves. I was no longer working with them by the time the charges came, so it was scary to suddenly see articles years later being published about this.

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                                Alexander Ionov was charged by a US Dept. of Justice indictment unsealed on July 29, 2022. He is accused of working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States.[10] According to the indictment, Ionov is accused of providing support to political campaigns in Florida, advocating for California's secession from the United States, and financing a protest tour in solidarity with a petition denouncing the alleged "genocide" of African people within the country.[11]

                                The organizations him and his company worked with were also pulled into that investigation and, in some cases, charged themselves. I was no longer working with them by the time the charges came, so it was scary to suddenly see articles years later being published about this.

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                                So wait, by "articles" you meant Wikipedia articles?

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  So wait, by "articles" you meant Wikipedia articles?

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                                  No. Actual. Articles. Also here. And here. One more.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Lazy strawman, used to justify punching left

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                                    lemmy.ml

                                    Yeah, no, I'm not listening to one word of whatever bs you're spouting.

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                                    • bad@jlai.luB [email protected]

                                      You caught me: I spent a lot of time working on getting that bit juuuust right because because I'm going to get it printed on a mug and gift it to a couple people who'll love it. Glad you liked it, it means I did it right!

                                      Making t-shirts and merch is my sidequest when drawing smuggies. I don't sell them, it's just for self-wear, I've got an entire wardrobe of them by now. The one I'm wearing today :

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                                      You not to are immune propaganda

                                      Jokes aside I'd wear that outside lol

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                                      • salamencefury@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        lemmy.ml

                                        Yeah, no, I'm not listening to one word of whatever bs you're spouting.

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                                        #155

                                        Clearly. If you actually listened to what the people you've arbitrarily declared to be The Enemy say, you wouldn't be able to make up lazy strawmen about what they believe.

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                                        • Z [email protected]

                                          This is an odd take just considering World War 2 is like the example of unity against a common genocidal threat: the Nazis.

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                                          There were no anarchists left in the USSR.

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