Infighting
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I was in very close proximity to a Russian-driven disinformation campaign in 2016 that used and exploited leftist organizations for its own benefit.
How did you uncover this information?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Articles started popping up and an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved. A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin, was flowing money to these orgs under the guise of a common goal and alignment. Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates. It was US-esque tactics on US soil.
I didn’t uncover anything and was merely volunteering with one of the groups when I could, but it was one of those “oh fuck” moments when I saw articles involving the group I was working with.
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Lol, in a post condemning leftist infighting, people are up voting people attacking other leftists for being from the wrong instance
No, we are attacking people for hanging out in an
Naziauthie genocide denying transphobe bars.I’m more interested in top vs bottom than left vs right.
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[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]
[a confused nazi asks]
Why… why are they still arguing?
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Yeah, pretty much this.
Going over the comments I already see boat loads of people completely missing the point where right wing extremism is taking hold thanks in part due to the constant bickering.
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[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]
[a confused nazi asks]
Why… why are they still arguing?
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Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website
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The only thing that matters is policy, I'll work with anyone as long as it's toward an egalitarian society with wealth redistribution.
Labels are nice for classifying, but not for executing. I don't care if you identify as leftist, or liberal, or progressive; I care if you support good policies.
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No, we are attacking people for hanging out in an
Naziauthie genocide denying transphobe bars.I’m more interested in top vs bottom than left vs right.
I’m more interested in top vs bottom
Yeah man, .ml is definitely the ruling class. For sure.
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I do it all the time. Done it several places in this thread even. Though lying and dishonesty from a joke like you. Who's shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities. That's completely on brand.
For every weak and tepid bit of support I've ever given the DNC during the presidential election. I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out. Because I do it all the time. However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren't interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.
I do it all the time.
I literally never see it, but I do often see you saying things that are explicitly incompatible with anarchism.
Who’s shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities
"We make fun of you in our secret tree house that you aren't allowed in" is not the sick burn you think.
I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out.
And for every one tepid, qualified criticism of the democrats you offer, I could you give 20 of you viciously tearing into the left for not supporting the democrats enough.
However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren’t interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.
Oh my god, go back to Reddit you insufferable dweeb. You're really doing the "facts and logic" bullshit?
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Articles started popping up and an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved. A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin, was flowing money to these orgs under the guise of a common goal and alignment. Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates. It was US-esque tactics on US soil.
I didn’t uncover anything and was merely volunteering with one of the groups when I could, but it was one of those “oh fuck” moments when I saw articles involving the group I was working with.
Articles started popping up
What do you mean "articles"? Articles where? Based on what?
an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved
Involved in what? How did you determine this?
A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin
What do mean "very obviously associated with the Kremlin"? How did you determine this?
Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates.
Again, how did you determine this?
it was one of those “oh fuck” moments
What was? What actually was found?
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[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing]
I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing]
Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing]
Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]
[a confused nazi asks]
Why… why are they still arguing?
Infighting | The Bad Website
Infighting - A comic on The Bad Website
The Bad Website (thebad.website)
I don't care what someone calls themselves as long as they oppose fascism and understand that the only place where Pedophiles are welcome is the inside of a wood chipper.
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Articles started popping up
What do you mean "articles"? Articles where? Based on what?
an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved
Involved in what? How did you determine this?
A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin
What do mean "very obviously associated with the Kremlin"? How did you determine this?
Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates.
Again, how did you determine this?
it was one of those “oh fuck” moments
What was? What actually was found?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Alexander Ionov was charged by a US Dept. of Justice indictment unsealed on July 29, 2022. He is accused of working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States.[10] According to the indictment, Ionov is accused of providing support to political campaigns in Florida, advocating for California's secession from the United States, and financing a protest tour in solidarity with a petition denouncing the alleged "genocide" of African people within the country.[11]
The organizations him and his company worked with were also pulled into that investigation and, in some cases, charged themselves. I was no longer working with them by the time the charges came, so it was scary to suddenly see articles years later being published about this.
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Alexander Ionov was charged by a US Dept. of Justice indictment unsealed on July 29, 2022. He is accused of working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States.[10] According to the indictment, Ionov is accused of providing support to political campaigns in Florida, advocating for California's secession from the United States, and financing a protest tour in solidarity with a petition denouncing the alleged "genocide" of African people within the country.[11]
The organizations him and his company worked with were also pulled into that investigation and, in some cases, charged themselves. I was no longer working with them by the time the charges came, so it was scary to suddenly see articles years later being published about this.
So wait, by "articles" you meant Wikipedia articles?
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So wait, by "articles" you meant Wikipedia articles?
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Lazy strawman, used to justify punching left
Yeah, no, I'm not listening to one word of whatever bs you're spouting.
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You caught me: I spent a lot of time working on getting that bit juuuust right because because I'm going to get it printed on a mug and gift it to a couple people who'll love it. Glad you liked it, it means I did it right!
Making t-shirts and merch is my sidequest when drawing smuggies. I don't sell them, it's just for self-wear, I've got an entire wardrobe of them by now. The one I'm wearing today :
You not to are immune propaganda
Jokes aside I'd wear that outside lol
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Yeah, no, I'm not listening to one word of whatever bs you're spouting.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Clearly. If you actually listened to what the people you've arbitrarily declared to be The Enemy say, you wouldn't be able to make up lazy strawmen about what they believe.
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This is an odd take just considering World War 2 is like the example of unity against a common genocidal threat: the Nazis.
There were no anarchists left in the USSR.
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The truth about many republicans, is that they want good things for society as well. However they are some of the most gullible, ignorant, uneducated, even miseducated people you will ever care to meet.
It is possible to reach them. But it is one of the most Herculean tasks you will ever undertake. One of the hardest parts of it is to avoid triggering their programming. Starting small with basic concepts you can both agree on. And working from there.
But it is one of the most Herculean tasks you will ever undertake.
So follow his lead. Divert a river and float the shit away or make them run in snow until they are tired.
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This isn't infighting between liberals and leftists, this is infighting between different flavours of leftism, like anarchism and marxist-leninism.
ah yes, because marxist-leninism has no history of its adherents glorifying imperialism or state-capitalism.
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" The Holo-incident is not THAT bad"
Tankies
Naziswrote last edited by [email protected]Comparing a famine caused by poor harvests across eastern europe and exacerbated by poor management to the fucking holocaust is wild.
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Comparing a famine caused by poor harvests across eastern europe and exacerbated by poor management to the fucking holocaust is wild.
Not just wild, also a form of Holocaust denial.
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This is an odd take just considering World War 2 is like the example of unity against a common genocidal threat: the Nazis.
Yeah and that only happened after years of the Nazi party being in power in Germany. And they even got Sudetenland as appeasement by France and Britain without the consent of Czechoslovakia. France and Britain only gave a fuck after Poland was invaded while the rest of Europe tried to stay neutral. And later Italy joined the Nazi. Europe wasn’t very united against the Nazi. Unity of the allies only happened after hundreds of thousands civilians were already executed. Before the invasion of Poland the Nazi executed political opponents and rounded up the Jews in Germany and the world didn’t do shit about it.
